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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
If a song has a mix of 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures, and needs to start in 3/4, it needs to use a 4/4 style and use F5 to set the first bar to 3/4. However, this means that the count-in will be in 4/4 when the song then actually starts in 3/4.

It seems to me that it would be a whole lot more practical if Band In A Box just produced the count-in using the same time-signature as the first bar of the song. If the first bar plays in 3/4, the count in should automatically be in 3/4. This would be a great improvement.

Hope others approve.

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+1, since I haven't done this in a while. This is a very sensible request, and one that I think would be essential to those using BIAB to perform live.


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
If a song has a mix of 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures, and needs to start in 3/4, it needs to use a 4/4 style and use F5 to set the first bar to 3/4. However, this means that the count-in will be in 4/4 when the song then actually starts in 3/4.

It seems to me that it would be a whole lot more practical if Band In A Box just produced the count-in using the same time-signature as the first bar of the song. If the first bar plays in 3/4, the count in should automatically be in 3/4. This would be a great improvement.

Hope others approve.

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I think it's possibly time for another Bump to this long outstanding issue.
Bump!


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If a song has a mix of 3/4 and 4/4 time signatures, and needs to start in 3/4, it needs to use a 4/4 style and use F5 to set the first bar to 3/4. However, this means that the count-in will be in 4/4 when the song then actually starts in 3/4.

It seems to me that it would be a whole lot more practical if Band In A Box just produced the count-in using the same time-signature as the first bar of the song. If the first bar plays in 3/4, the count in should automatically be in 3/4. This would be a great improvement.

Hope others approve.

Regards
Trevor

I think it's possibly time for another Bump to this long outstanding issue.
Bump!


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If this issue were known to potential purchasers I think anyone likely to work in 3/4 would pass on by.
For all the good the prog does this little aspect is symptomatic of companies that may put "moving forward" ahead of dealing with their past.
I wouldn't use the program to back a live 3/4 song - there'd be too many stumbles unless I'd deliberately prepared a long intro and didn't play until that was almost over.

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This is another request that has been around since 2013 (and by others before me)

Hopefully we will see this issue finally resolved in 2020. It's not too late yet. Hope others also support this.


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I'm really, really, really hopeful.
(Actually, after all these years, really really, really, really hopeful)
Please remove this significant bug and deliver for 2020
(I dislike using the 'b' word, but that's what this is - by any other name - if the song starts in 3/4, the count-in should be in 3/4)


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What about 6/8 wink

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What about 6/8 wink

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One of my main uses for BIAB is lead sheet printing. PLEASE FIX THIS !!!

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Yes. Hopefully this is at the very top of the shortlist for resolution by now.

As noted, this shortcoming continues to cause significant issues to many users.

(Also, make the count-in setting local to each song, not global. Not all songs need a count-in).

Thanks.


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Yes - +1
I end up modifying the count-in in DAW.
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I end up modifying the count-in in DAW.
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Hardly ideal. Having to go to a separate DAW, just to get a basic count-in sorted, no?


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Yes. Hopefully this is at the very top of the shortlist for resolution by now.

As noted, this shortcoming continues to cause significant issues to many users.

(Also, make the count-in setting local to each song, not global. Not all songs need a count-in).

Thanks.


AGAIN A BIG +1


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With all the good things happening lately, I think it's time to revisit this important one.
Another +1
Any other takers?


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If you have a 2 bar count off in BB and it's using bars as "cells" and joining them to emulate time signatures greater than 4/4 how would you do that with the 2 4/4 bars ? would you have to do it in midi and don't write it to the track ?

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If you have a 2 bar count off in BB and it's using bars as "cells" and joining them to emulate time signatures greater than 4/4 how would you do that with the 2 4/4 bars ? would you have to do it in midi and don't write it to the track ?

Hi Pipeline, I'm not sure if I follow, but I am trying. The count off (count-in) is not part of the bars of the song, but precedes the first bar. I think you are indicating that if the song is in a time-signature something like 5/4, it uses two bars to make up the 5 beats. Yes? The way that's achieved is a workaround, agreed.

However, separate to those workarounds, if the song starts in 5/4 time, the count-in should reflect that. Otherwise, why even have a count in at all? The absolute best thing that a wrong count-in can do is confuse the performers. And that's its best achievement. Why do a 4 beat count-in for a song that starts in 3? Huh? What?


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