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#547394 - 07/30/19 05:34 AM [User Showcase] Better Days
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Better Days

Better days (2019, Christiane Spruit)
1.
Someone told me
Better days are coming now
It is time to let the old ways die
Days of waiting
in empty halls of promises
Are coming to an end
2.
Now you tell me
That I don’t have what I want
But I sure have all of what I need
Fields are burning
within a flicker of complaint
remember all the efforts made
CHORUS:
Better days are coming
incomplete, but in a way
Better days are coming
_There’s no way -to teach hard luck bones to fly
Now It’s time …… time to let the old saints die
3.
Woke up this morning
Rain was pouring from the sky
Dehydrating my alone suburban mind
wet, lame faces
beneath the pole of a lamplight
it is time to let the old ways die

CHORUS:
Better days are coming
incomplete, but in a way
Better days are coming
_There’s no way -to teach hard luck bones to fly
Now it’s time…
let the old ways


Outro vamp:
Let the old ways

The Band:

RealDrums: PopModernGrooveSync16^1-a:Snare on 4, HiHat , b:Snare, Ride
1827:Bass, Electric, PopModernGrooveA-B Ev16 075
1839:Piano, Acoustic, Rhythm PopModernGrooveA-B Ev16 075
1831:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopModernGrooveBrightA-B Ev16 075
878:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm NorthernRockGrittyA-B Sw16 075
1525:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopPowerPushDirty Ev 120 (see notes)

I'm playing the guitar lead and Chris is playing all of the piano parts except during the guitar solo. I changed my mind about what chords I wanted to play the solo over after Chris had already sent me her piano track, so instead of making her redo that part I just used a realtrack piano.

Production Notes:
For realtrack 1525, which mostly plays during the outro, I selected the held chords option and also the DI option, and then processed through the Waves PRS amp sim plugin.

Mixed in reaper using native plugins (side chain compressor) and plugins from Waves and iZotope, mastered with Ozone8 and LMC.

I found this one difficult to mix, mostly because of conflicts between the piano and the rhythm guitars clogging up the midrange, plus the distorted guitars were adding lots of harsh high end frequencies. I couldn't hear it but Chris could, she has much better range in her hearing than I do.

So any comments about the mix, or any other aspects of the song are appreciated!

Also up on soundcloud: Better Days




Edited by BlueAttitude (07/31/19 03:09 AM)
Edit Reason: added soundcloud link

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#547418 - 07/30/19 08:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Hey there Dave, thank you for sharing this! The arrangement is wonderful to the ears and the vibe is very appealing. Quite enjoyed those guitar licks too. Thanks for sharing
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#547427 - 07/30/19 09:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Hey Joe,

Hmmm, you left a comment on Jannesan’s song, on Chris37’s song and my song all at 11:36.

Did you actually listen to any of them??

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#547433 - 07/30/19 09:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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"There’s no way -to teach hard luck bones to fly"...
What a line...
Every once in a while I will spot one of these...
And think let's file that away for a future song...
Thanks...
As always I really enjoyed to your & Chris' collaboration...
Both of you compliment each so very well...
But I can't help but wonder what your song would sound like with Chris' piano part.

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Hey Joe,
Hmmm, you left a comment on Jannesan’s song, on Chris37’s song and my song all at 11:36.
Did you actually listen to any of them??

I've notice the same thing but have never mentioned it...
He also commented on tschiewe song 1 minute earlier...
Perhaps he listened to all of them & then made comments...
You think smile


Edited by Jim (07/30/19 09:35 AM)
Edit Reason: dyslexia
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#547451 - 07/30/19 11:19 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Dave & Chris...

Man! Y'all do this stuff (Bluesy Rock?) SO well!

A solid, interesting write. An excellent vocal. The chorus vocals are especially nice...

The mix sounds really good to me. Balanced, full, quite "easy on the ears", in fact.

Dave, your guitar is SINGING! on this!! Loved it!

Another solid performance from you both. Awesome.

fj

(The way the forum is going these days, we should be thankful to be getting any comments at all. An awful lot of people only concerned with their own stuff...funny how they think we should be listening to their stuff, though...)

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#547478 - 07/30/19 02:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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A slight nudge from blues rock to rock blues -- a bit anthemic in nature we think.

And extremely well done.

Chris really has the power vocal thing going AND with great dynamics. A somewhat rare combo nowadays.

And as always you are so good at complementing the vocal with your playing. The fills and solos and the vocals are interlaced so nicely.

Your work with the difficulties of the mix you described paid off big time -- the band lays out an excellent soundstage on our monitors.


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#547480 - 07/30/19 02:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Dave / Chris
First the mix sounds very good to me.

Loved the vocal Chris sounds great nice complimentary piano - and man the guitar is superb, great tone and some wonderful note choices.

A really top notch and interesting blues rock write with an great solo(always love that)and a wonderful ending.


Peter

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#547485 - 07/30/19 03:40 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Dave & Chris,
I am a big fan of your music and this was a pleasant surprise. I feel this is excellent addition to your portfolio. I like the dramatic piano on the start. Chris vocals shine. Dave, excellent playing! Mix is A+
But most importantly, I see shifts and experiments in your music and my belief, it is #1 rule musicians should stick to, is to find new ways & different approaches. That what makes it fun or interesting to listen. Keep up great work!

Thank you for sharing!

Misha.

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#547494 - 07/30/19 05:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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I really enjoyed your lyrics - I think it's a feeling mos can relate to. Thanks for sharing!
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#547500 - 07/30/19 06:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Hi Dave. This is really well done.
Congrats to all involved. Rob4580

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#547507 - 07/30/19 08:56 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: Rob4580]
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Really enjoyed it, a big tune with great lyrics which you don't often see in blues based stuff. Liked the guitar at the end esp. but throughout as well.
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#547520 - 07/30/19 11:39 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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COOOOL. This has a bit of Maggie Bell in it - she did a great line in blues informed rock (Suicide Sal - great album).
the backing vocals are a real treat.
Loved it all.
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#547537 - 07/31/19 03:14 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: Jim]
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Originally Posted By: Jim
"There’s no way -to teach hard luck bones to fly"...
What a line...
Every once in a while I will spot one of these...
And think let's file that away for a future song...
Thanks...
As always I really enjoyed to your & Chris' collaboration...
Both of you compliment each so very well...
But I can't help but wonder what your song would sound like with Chris' piano part.


Thanks very much, Jim! Well, most of the piano is Chris. It's only during the guitar solo that I used the realtrack piano.

Originally Posted By: Jim

Quote:
Hey Joe,
Hmmm, you left a comment on Jannesan’s song, on Chris37’s song and my song all at 11:36.
Did you actually listen to any of them??

I've notice the same thing but have never mentioned it...
He also commented on tschiewe song 1 minute earlier...
Perhaps he listened to all of them & then made comments...
You think smile


Well, if I was a betting man .... wink

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#547578 - 07/31/19 09:41 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Dave & Chris,
You deliver again... with a non-preachy poetic relevance to the lyrics that adds to my enjoyment of another fine blues rock opus ( can`t think of a better word for how your guitar soars).
At first I thought the vocals sounded a bit far back, but ... this needs to be played loud, then it gels.
Love the chorus harmonies especially at the close behind your lead.
Fine work!

Robert

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#547636 - 07/31/19 06:33 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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This should be back at the top.
whistle
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#547650 - 07/31/19 08:35 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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I've been gently corrected by floyd jane enough times not to comment on the mix. whistle

I will say that everything "works" for me - nothing sticks out, too hot, or out of place. I didn't notice the replacement of the piano tracks.

I enjoyed the listen - a moody track, the lyrics a good contrast with the upbeat title. smile
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#547658 - 07/31/19 09:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Powerful piece. The guitar intro works great leading into that classy vocal. Nice build throughout until the end, where it turns reflective. Wonderful leads that really "lead". Has that classic feel. Very much enjoyed.
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#547667 - 08/01/19 04:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Dave & Chris...

Man! Y'all do this stuff (Bluesy Rock?) SO well!

A solid, interesting write. An excellent vocal. The chorus vocals are especially nice...

The mix sounds really good to me. Balanced, full, quite "easy on the ears", in fact.

Dave, your guitar is SINGING! on this!! Loved it!

Another solid performance from you both. Awesome.

fj

Floyd,

Yes, I would call this blues/rock music.

Thanks for the positive comments , means a lot to get that kind of feedback! smile

Originally Posted By: floyd jane


(The way the forum is going these days, we should be thankful to be getting any comments at all. An awful lot of people only concerned with their own stuff...funny how they think we should be listening to their stuff, though...)


Yes, I've noticed that too. Lots of people posting songs but never giving feedback on other peoples music, which is what this forum used to be great for.
My policy is simple, support me and I'll return the favor wink

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#547676 - 08/01/19 06:00 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Hi Blue Attitude, hi Chris,

this is a really good one, and really well-performed. The melody with its large interval is anything but easy to be sung,(esp. the last two lines in front of the chorus), but , Chris, you did an awesome vocal job! And

The chorus is very, very nice - the harmony singing us excellent.

Ah yes: good lyrics, too.

Daave: I really liked your guitar parts, very nicely written (or improvised) and played - love the tone of the guitar. To me, a guitar doesn't have to sound in a way everybody says, 'Ah, never heard something like that before', to me it must fit the song. And this tone fits the song perfectly, it's authentic.

The production sounds very appealing to my old ears - so to sum it up: Great song, enjoyed the listen very much.

Cheers,

Stefan

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#547724 - 08/01/19 08:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: Better Days [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Simply amazing. This song and especially with Chris's voice reminds me of a band Skunk Anansie. Her singing has so much dynamics, maybe her best interpretation so far I have heard. Admirable and enviable collaboration - that voice and that singing blues solo guitar playing and talking together. Interesting chording with some nice surprises. Better days are already here.

Janne


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