Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#548207 - 08/05/19 04:24 AM [User Showcase] The Wagoner's Lad
Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2634
Loc: South Africa
JoanneCooper Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2634
Loc: South Africa
I was supposed to be packing up my house yesterday as we are about to embark on a major renovation and will need to move out. Anyway, I procrastinated and while tidying up I found an old Joan Baez folk songbook and started browsing through it... and found the lyrics to Wagoners Lad..did some research and found it is in the public domain and so I wrote some music for the lyrics. Then I recorded it. Needless to say, I didn't get much more packing done. Oh well, tomorrow is another day!

[Link no longer valid]

Lyrics:
Oh, I'm just a poor girl my fortune is sad
I've always been courted by the wagoner's lad
He's courted me daily, by night and by day
But now he is loading and moving away
Gone away, gone away
Gone away, gone away

My parents don't like him because he is poor
They say he's not worthy to stanidn inside my door
He works for a living, his money's his own
And if they don't like it they can leave him alone
Gone away, gone away
Gone away, gone away

Your horses are hungry, go feed them some hay
Then sit down here beside me as long as you may
My horses ain't hungry, they won't eat your hay
So fare thee well my darlin I'll be on my way
Gone away, gone away
Gone away, gone away

Your wagon needs greasing your whip is to mend
Then sit down her beside me as long as you can
My wagon is greasy, my whip's in my hand
So fare thee well darlin, no longer to stand
Gone away, gone away
Gone away, gone away

Oh, hard is the fortune of all woman kind
She's always controlled, she's always confined
Controlled by her parents until she's a wife
A slave to her husband the rest of her life
Gone away, gone away
Gone away, gone away
Gone away, gone away
Gone away, gone away

Style used:
Blight Slow Americana with Banjo
I added the fiddle

Comments as always are appreciated.



Edited by Andrew - PG Music (09/01/20 02:12 PM)

Top
#548210 - 08/05/19 04:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 04/13/16
Posts: 2585
Loc: Stanwell Park NSW Australia
rayc Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/13/16
Posts: 2585
Loc: Stanwell Park NSW Australia
That's a lovely setting for the lyric.
Supporting and expressing. As usual the vocals are stellar.
The only suggestion I have is to mellow the violin in the intro + 1st verse as there're a few spots in which it becomes strident - that could be achieved with a little EQ or even some subtle reverb.
Lovely listen and something JB would've been happy to have sung.
_________________________
Cheers
rayc
"What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
Pop on over to The Recording Rebels for positive, honest commentary, critiques and support. https://therecordingrebels.com

Top
#548239 - 08/05/19 08:54 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 06/09/16
Posts: 2891
Robertkc Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/09/16
Posts: 2891
Joanne,
A gorgeous chorus that floats away...wonderful to hear your voice again.
The story is a nice blend of humour and sad truth. Substitute a modern vehicle for that wagon and who would know the lyric is from another era!
Really good simple arrangement- especially given the rapid time frame.

Robert

Top
#548250 - 08/05/19 10:38 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 2012
Loc: Midwest
HearToLearn Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/04/10
Posts: 2012
Loc: Midwest
Ok Joanne, I think you know I'm a fan. Once again, this didn't disappoint. I REALLY REALLY like your delivery of the "gone away" parts in the chorus.

Now this is where it might be odd. I don't mean it to be. When I see your name; I have a certain expectation of how the song will sound. Not in a bad way; in the best way possible. There is something very John Denver-ish about your songs that I'm am drawn to. I'm a fan of his music; and I'm a fan of your music.

Great job once again!
_________________________
C.Aaron Madison
I often get asked how to pronounce my name.
"Ma-Duh-Sn" J/K wink
As people have left the "." out so many times, "Caaron" has become the norm of it. Still said as the "." was there though. smile


Top
#548252 - 08/05/19 10:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 2209
Rustyspoon# Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/07/18
Posts: 2209
Joanne,
Beautiful tune. I like your voice doubling and overall vocals are A+! Drums work exceptionally well on this song.

Thank you for sharing!

Misha.

Top
#548258 - 08/05/19 11:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 06/16/00
Posts: 1944
Loc: Texas
Jim Offline
Expert

Registered: 06/16/00
Posts: 1944
Loc: Texas
Nicely done Joanne...
I enjoyed the listen...
And I hope your "major renovation" goes well!
_________________________
Jim
†=☮&♥

Top
#548281 - 08/05/19 01:42 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3362
Deryk - PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 02/15/17
Posts: 3362
Nicely done smile It flows beautifully, and I love the lush instrumentation. Your vocal pair with it perfectly. That aside, I thought the mix was top notch also. Really concise and professional sounding.

Thanks for sharing!
_________________________
Cheers,
Deryk

Top
#548292 - 08/05/19 03:09 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 5094
Loc: North Carolina
David Snyder Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/29/14
Posts: 5094
Loc: North Carolina
Hey Joanne,

This song is really great! Excellent.

I want to apologize for being so absent from the forum. Also, I will be candid that this part of the post is kind of a generic “form letter” to my old and new forum friends.

In brief, work is very hectic right now and I am having a hard time keeping up with the forum and even writing new songs. There is also a lot of new material hitting the boards—more than I can listen to and reply. People are on a roll!

Instead of backing away from the forum I want to stay involved by just giving the equivalent of a “like” as opposed to full-fledged commentary.

This way, I can just keep listening, and enjoying and reply with a simple LOVE IT or something like that.

I do listen, love your stuff and really want to continue following those who are so dedicated to encouraging others, even if it is only with one word.

Hope this makes sense, thanks for your artistry and forgive my brevity going forward with massive time constraints.

Also forgive me if you see this message more than once until I know I have covered all my bases.

Peace!!

smile
_________________________
David Snyder
Audiophile Everything + Studio + Instruments + Fingers
ASCAP, NSAI

www.davidsnydermusic.com
www.reverbnation.com/davidpsnyder
www.soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel
www.songtradr.com/user/profile/david.snyder







Top
#548306 - 08/05/19 04:11 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 14574
Loc: Hamlin NY
MarioD Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 14574
Loc: Hamlin NY
Whenever I see your name in the User Showcase I know that I am in for a treat!

As usual this is perfect in every way. I especially liked the harmonies. Again as usual your vocals are outstanding and your backing track matches the story perfectly.
_________________________
I told my suitcases there will be no holiday this year. Now I am dealing with emotional baggage!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB and RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software and some hardware.

Top
#548311 - 08/05/19 05:55 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 09/02/18
Posts: 1108
Loc: Denmark
Will Josef Offline
Expert

Registered: 09/02/18
Posts: 1108
Loc: Denmark
I'm no expert in this style of music, but it sounds good to me and I enjoyed listening. You have a great talent for writing catching songs!

Will

Top
#548328 - 08/05/19 08:43 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3656
Loc: Sacramento, California
dcuny Offline
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3656
Loc: Sacramento, California
Lovely. laugh

Good luck with the packing!
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#548331 - 08/05/19 09:41 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 04/15/19
Posts: 305
Loc: SA, Australia
Ghostgum Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 04/15/19
Posts: 305
Loc: SA, Australia
Love the vocals. I agree with rayc - I feel the violin was a little too strident at times. Also would have liked the violin and banjo to have some spatial separation - perhaps put one of them over in the right channel somewhere. That might have been more balanced. In all other respects at great job. Looking forward to hearing more.

P.S. I lent my Joan Baez Song Book to someone back in '76 and they 'forgot' to give it back - and then they disappeared. Some copies selling for around $50 eBay these days - outrageous!

Top
#548339 - 08/06/19 12:17 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: Ghostgum]
Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3656
Loc: Sacramento, California
dcuny Offline
Veteran

Registered: 09/27/10
Posts: 3656
Loc: Sacramento, California
Originally Posted By: Ghostgum
Some [Joan Baez Song Book] copies selling for around $50 eBay these days - outrageous!
.
Ouch! I've got a copy I've picked up from the local thrift store. I saw another last week, but figured one copy was enough.

Maybe I should go back and get it, and try listing it on eBay... whistle
_________________________
-- David Cuny
My virtual singer development blog

Vocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?

Top
#548402 - 08/06/19 11:22 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 08/21/18
Posts: 1163
Tangmo Offline
Expert

Registered: 08/21/18
Posts: 1163
Wonderful lyric/music fit. Lovely voice and harmonies. The band is just enough to carry the song. Very much enjoyed.
_________________________
BIAB 2020 Audiophile. Windows 10 64bit. Songwriter, lyricist, composer(?) loving all styles. Some pre-BIAB music from Farfetched Tangmo Band's first CD. https://alonetone.com/tangmo/playlists/close-to-the-ground

Top
#548404 - 08/06/19 11:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 9549
Loc: GA USA
Janice & Bud Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 9549
Loc: GA USA
Nicely done Joann. It's always fun for us to re-interpret old PD songs and poems.

Interesting that it was in a Joan Baez songbook as you are definitely channeling her
on this production with the lead and the lovely harmonies.

The backing tracks set in very nicely with your performance.

Enjoyed it!

J&B

Top
#548458 - 08/06/19 05:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 3871
Loc: Sydney Australia
PeterF Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/06/03
Posts: 3871
Loc: Sydney Australia
Joanne

Beautiful interpretation. Excellent vocals and harmonies, the chorus is lovely.

Very very nice.

Peter

Top
#548462 - 08/06/19 05:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 01/28/12
Posts: 3159
Loc: Murgon Queensland Australia
Rob4580 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 01/28/12
Posts: 3159
Loc: Murgon Queensland Australia
Hi Joanne. Love the melody you developed on this.
Very nice. Rob4580

Top
#548614 - 08/08/19 07:14 AM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2634
Loc: South Africa
JoanneCooper Offline
Veteran

Registered: 05/12/12
Posts: 2634
Loc: South Africa
RayC - and Ghostgum - thank so much for the feedback on the mix. I appreciate it. I have reworked it slightly. Fiddled around with the panning and put some reverb and eq on the violin. Would love to know if you think it is better (or not :))

https://soundcloud.com/joannecoopersa/the-wagoners-lad-version-2

Dave and Ghostgum - those are great stories about the JB songbook. Ghostgum maybe I have your copy because I have no idea where the one that I found came from smile

RobertKc, Caaron,Misha, Jim, Deryk, David, Mario, Will, Tangmo, Bud, Janice, PeterF and Rob - thank you all for taking the time to listen and for all your nice comments. I really need to hang out here more smile

Top
#548642 - 08/08/19 12:45 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 1664
Joe -PG Music Offline
PG Music Staff

Registered: 01/18/16
Posts: 1664
Well done Joanne, what a marvelous song I might say! This is beautiful and a solid key signature choice too. The vocals harmonize well with the other instruments. Keep it up!
_________________________
Cheers,
Joe

Top
#548673 - 08/08/19 03:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: The Wagoner's Lad [Re: JoanneCooper]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8779
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 8779
Loc: Florida
A nice job on this, Joanne.

It does bring to mind the style of Baez. Your vocal and harmony suits it well...

The mix is crisp and clear.

Good to see you around.

fj

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


PG Music News
NEW! Xtra Styles PAK 10 & MultiStyles PAK 1 for Band-in-a-Box®!

We've just released some amazing new Add-ons for Band-in-a-Box® 2020!

Xtra Styles PAK 10 with 50 styles each for Country, Jazz, Rock-Pop, and Folk Celebration! These carefully crafted RealStyles include lo-fi acoustic guitar hip hop, triple-guitar garage rock, a barbeque boom-chick jam, slidin' lazy country blues, bolero and bossa nova fusion, a Gypsy and stride ballad, praise break organ jazz fusion, surfin' folk rock, barn dance old-time stomp 'n' clap, an acoustic folky blues jam, and so much more!

Introducing MultiStyles PAK 1! 30 MultiStyles containing 120 styles - that's a total of 150 Styles! We've included 10 MultiStyles each for Country, Jazz, and Rock-Pop. Our jazz greats MultiStyle allows you to switch between piano and guitar comping, or select from two different solos. Our Jamaican groove selecta allows you to switch from ska at one section to reggae, island groove, or reggae with sax solo at another. A Tex-Mex country MultiStyle allows you to switch between a regular-time and double-time feel. And that's just the beginning. There's so much more in store! Once you dive into these professionally-mixed MultiStyles, you'll wonder how you ever made due with only two substyles per song! Use one substyle for a softer intro, another one for a restrained breakdown, then throw in a different and energetic middle-eight, or change it up with a solo. The possibilities are endless!

And they're ON SALE!

Xtra Styles PAK 10, and ALL our Xtra Styles PAKs, are on sale for $29 (reg. $49) each! Haven't purchased Xtra Styles yet, but now you want them all? The COMPLETE collection of Xtra Styles PAKs 1-10 with over 1,600 RealStyles can be yours for only $199 (reg. $349)! There's also an option to purchase the newest Xtra Styles PAKs 9 & 10 for Band-in-a-Box® 2020 for a bundle price of $49, if you missed out on our previous special! www.pgmusic.com/xtrastyles.php?os=win

Purchase MultiStyles PAK 1 for only $19 (reg. $29)! Adding the 2021 49-PAK to your Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows purchase? No need to buy this separately, MultiStyles PAK 1 is included with it! www.pgmusic.com/addons.multistyles.php?os=win

Mac user? Click here for your OS specific product announcement.

Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows is HERE!

Just released: Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows with over 50 new features, 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Artist Performances, Bonus RealDrums "Singles," RealDrums transcriptions, MultiStyles PAK 1, Xtra Styles PAK 10, and more!

We're having a SALE on Band-in-a-Box® 2021 Upgrade purchases until December 31, 2020- save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows Upgrade!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2021 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 40 Unreleased RealTracks and the just-released MultiStyles PAK 1) upgrade it to the 2021 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2021 for Windows at: www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm

Band-in-a-Box® for Mac - Audio Chord Wizard Overview Video

The Audio Chord Wizard included in Band-in-a-Box is a powerful feature that automatically figures out the chords from an audio file and imports them (as well as the audio) into Band-in-a-Box®, along with the bar lines, key, tempo, and fine tuning!

Check out this video, where we explain how to use the Audio Chord Wizard: Click here to watch...

Read more about the Audio Chord Wizard within our online program manual, here. Better yet - give it a try and see/hear for yourself how intelligent this feature is!

Clarinet RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!

It's National Clarinet Day! Who doesn't enjoy the rich & mellow sounds the clarinet delivers?

We have 20+ Clarinet RealTracks available for Band-in-a-Box®, covering Dixieland, Folk, Jazz, and World styles. You'll find these RealTracks in the following Sets:
RealTracks Set 56: Jazz, Old and New
RealTracks Set 144: Dixieland - Fast Soloists
RealTracks Set 178: Dixieland - Medium Soloists
RealTracks Set 248: Oberkrainer! Folk Music From the Alps

Clarinet RealTracks Artists include:
James Danderfer
P.J. Perry
Thomas Oberreiter

Tutorial - Downloading and Installing Your Band-in-a-Box® Purchase

When you order your copy of Band-in-a-Box® from our website you'll receive the installation files to download your order, even if you're having it shipped!

You can access these files within the My Products section of your online account.

Downloading the program is such a convenient way to get started with Band-in-a-Box®! To learn more about how to download your purchase, please review the written tutorials we've created for Windows and Mac.

200+ Saxophone RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!

Where would music be today without the sultry sounds of the Saxophone? Fortunately, because of Adolphe Sax, we don't have to find out!

Today we celebrate his birthday, and with that a nod to our extensive collection of Saxophone RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box®!

Saxophone RealTracks sound so amazing that they were one of the first RealTracks we developed and released for the program with Band-in-a-Box® 2007! Now there are more than 200 Saxophone RealTracks available for Jazz, Rock, Blues, Country, Funk, and Pop!

Our Saxophone RealTracks Artists include:
Eric Alexander
Eric Marienthal
Gary Smulyan
Jack Stafford
Jim Clark
Mark Douthit
P.J. Perry
Phil Woods
Tom Keenlyside

Click on their name to be taken to their bio page where you can learn more about the artists and listen to demos of all their RealTracks.

Upgrading to Band-in-a-Box® 2020 is Easy!

Did you know... anyone who has owned a previous version of Band-in-a-Box® is entitle to upgrade pricing - you do not need to have your old version installed!

Maybe you used to own the Windows version, but you now have a Mac... that's not a problem either!
(or if you owned the Mac version, and now you have a Windows computer)

In both cases, you would purchase from the "Upgrade from 2018 or earlier or crossgrade" row here for a new Mac version, or here if you want the newest Windows version. Just need to upgrade your 2019 version? Use the "Upgrade from 2019/2020" row.

When you purchase your upgrade from either of these rows, you will receive a complete installation - just follow the steps of the setup, and your Band-in-a-Box® will be ready to use!

PG Music Inc. shopping cart accounts were not required to purchase from our website prior to October 29, 2014. With that in mind, you may have to create an account in order to upgrade - that's OK! You'll still be entitled to upgrade pricing.

Forum Stats
33270 Members
67 Forums
66399 Topics
568831 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
duyenforex, Mohitvermaji51, ksheffer, thuyanhforex, HiTide

33270 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Pipeline 266
Matt Finley 250
VideoTrack 193
Rob Helms 149
CaptainMoto 133
MarioD 132
jford 124
eddie1261 114
PeterGannon 112
jpettit 111
Today's Birthdays
doctormidi