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#550928 - 08/24/19 01:31 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] BB 2019 Mac
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camog Offline
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Hi all on the forum, BB 2019 Win has now been out for months - the new Xtra Styles PAK 7 is out, but only useable with the BB 2019 Win version!! BB 2019 Mac is now more than overdue - for those of us very frustrated by the long wait and no info as to why, would it be appropriate for PGMusic to at least issue a clear statement as to the reasons for the wait?? I do understand and appreciate the policy of not issuing release dates in advance, but for those Mac users who have been loyal for years a bit of a 'comfort' statement would be nice!!! Come on PG - keep us in the loop!! Best wishes to all, Carl

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#551069 - 08/24/19 05:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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I guess you missed this thread right below yours on the list:

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=538589&gonew=1#UNREAD

It doesn't appear to be a PGM problem, it's Apple making their new OS 64 bit only.
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#551105 - 08/25/19 12:00 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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camog Offline
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Thanks for that jazzmammal - no I din't miss the thread on this subject, but that seems to be all speculation and guessing (which is fine)! I was hoping for something a bit more concrete from PGM!! Cheers, Carl

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#551351 - 08/26/19 03:58 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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Me too! I don’t want to update from Mojave. It works just fine. I have more than enough software than I will ever use in my life. I would just like to use the DAW plugin, and some new real tracks would be handy. Can PG not have a .version for those that are not going to update to Catalina? E.g. Some may have older computers etc. I’m sure I’m not the only one that thinks they do not need any new Catalina bells & whistles. I’ve updated BIAB every year since day dot, but for the first time I’m getting to the point where I may not. Starting to regret changing over to a Mac (years ago now). This is not all PG music’s fault. If it ai’nt broke.......

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#551424 - 08/26/19 07:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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Mike Halloran Offline
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Quote:
it's Apple making their new OS 64 bit only.
This was promised in 2011 and was supposed to have happened with Yosemite but Apple kicked the can another 5 years.

It's now really real with the release scheduled for Sept. 10.
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Me too! I don’t want to update from Mojave. It works just fine.

Then don't.
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I would just like to use the DAW plugin, and some new real tracks would be handy. Can PG not have a .version for those that are not going to update to Catalina?

Why do you think that a 64 bit only version will not run in Mojave?

64 bit only apps have been real for many years. Some run in Snow Leopard.
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#552352 - 09/01/19 06:13 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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I am starting to have concerns that the 2019 Mac version has problems that will further delay the release.

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#552366 - 09/01/19 07:50 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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camog Offline
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Yes that's possible Bob - intensely frustrating for loyal BB Mac customers to be kept in the dark like this!! Whenever the bubble does burst, it will be interesting to learn what the wait was all about - I'm considering pulling out of BB altogether and recording all my various instruments and tracks myself, nobody is asking for release date promises and sensible communication doesn't hurt anyone a bit!! Carl

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#552730 - 09/03/19 11:16 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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FWIW, PG support told me last week "We anticipate the release by mid September"

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#552776 - 09/03/19 07:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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I have several folks waiting for it's release. Great news, PG!
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#552795 - 09/03/19 11:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: Matt N]
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They told me last month it was due mid August

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#553178 - 09/06/19 12:19 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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The can must be almost crushed, from being kicked so many times
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#553423 - 09/07/19 09:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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Jim Sugg Offline
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I can only imagine what it’s like to be on the BIAB Mac dev team right now. My hat’s off to them.

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#553954 - 09/09/19 10:22 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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If BB 2019 Mac is released later this month, presumably at roughly the normal £150 + $25 for XtraStyles 7 - are we supposed to pay out the same amount in 7 months time for BB 2020 Mac and XtraStyles 8 when they're released?? That's around £330 in 7 months for updates alone - maybe PGM could/should discount the BB 2019 Mac price due to the excessive delay, and throw in XtraStyles 7 for free in the deal??? C

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#553956 - 09/09/19 10:28 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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camog Offline
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Actually $49 for XtraStyles 7 after Sept 15th, will BB 2019 Mac be released before that - or is that still more money to stay up-to-date?? C

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#553967 - 09/10/19 01:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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I bought 2018 UltraPAK 2 months ago, I hope that the upgrade price is not going to be extortionate or I might just stay with what I have.

Does PGM offer reductions for recent purchases?

Its the Apple special event tonight so OS Catalina will probably have a release date, for me there is nothing in it I want so am happy to stay on 10.14.6.


Edited by TRYUK (09/10/19 01:43 AM)
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#554027 - 09/10/19 09:16 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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I am most excited at the prospect of an updated iOS app.
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#554055 - 09/10/19 11:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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I noticed both Mike Head and TRYUK have created message posts concerning the functionality of Native Instrument products with the upcoming release of the Mac operating system, 10.15. +++ HERE +++ is a compatability statement released today (September 10, 2019). The statement is copied below:
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Native Instruments software and hardware products are not supported under macOS 10.15. Please do not install macOS 10.15 if you are using Native Instruments products.

We are currently conducting systematic tests to offer full compatibility as soon as possible after the official release. Please check this page or your Native Instruments product's specifications page regularly to obtain information on the current operating system requirements.

This article has been last updated on September 10th, 2019


Cakewalk by Bandlab users are listing software that will be obsolete and no longer function with the operating system. It is an interesting discussion, you can read it +++ HERE +++

I think I'm starting to understand why PG Music might be waiting to release 2019 Band-in-a-Box for Mac until after MacOS 10.15 (Catalina) is released in October.

Why did I say October? Because Apple has pushed the release date into sometime in October; check out the screen shot below taken from +++ THIS +++ Apple web page.


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Edited by Jim Fogle (09/10/19 11:53 AM)
Edit Reason: Added screen shot.
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#554063 - 09/10/19 12:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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TRYUK Offline
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With these companies now saying do not upgrade the OS I fully understand why PG Music has said nothing about BiaB Mac 2019. It will be interesting to see if any other type of software companies come out with similar announcements.
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#554071 - 09/10/19 12:45 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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From the Cakewalk by Bandlab link above:

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Due to Apple’s new security restrictions, KOMPLETE 8, 9, and 10 HDDs and all KOMPLETE DVDs will no longer work with macOS Catalina, but your products will always be available to download via Native Access. If you’d like to install products from your DVDs or hard drives, do so before updating.


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I received an email from Ableton that version 9 will no longer work with Mac latest update.
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#554228 - 09/11/19 08:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: BB 2019 Mac [Re: camog]
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camog Offline
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BB 2019 Mac is released at last - phew, the long wait is over!! Just purchased on separate HD which should be here in about 3 days (fingers crossed)! CM

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