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#554469 - 09/12/19 03:49 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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JJJ, lets switch gears a bit and make sure we're on the same page. When you hit the Reply button as opposed to simply starting to write a reply in the empty box at the bottom of any thread, you see a row of icons across the top. Hover your mouse over the 4th from the left, it says "Enter an image". Click that and it opens another window where you can browse your own computer and post whatever pic you want.

Afaik, there's no need for a 3rd part hosting and hasn't been for years. The only little glitch with this is the image or images always goes at the bottom after your text. To me that's a small aggravation to avoid 3rd party hosting unless it's your own website.

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#554489 - 09/12/19 06:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: jazzmammal]
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Images don't always show and you need to click on the Attachment, but any image you just right click on it "Copy Image Location" now you can click on the "Enter an image" button
and put that between text and so on with the other 4 images.


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#554492 - 09/12/19 06:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
JJJ, lets switch gears a bit and make sure we're on the same page. When you hit the Reply button as opposed to simply starting to write a reply in the empty box at the bottom of any thread, you see a row of icons across the top. Hover your mouse over the 4th from the left, it says "Enter an image". Click that and it opens another window where you can browse your own computer and post whatever pic you want.

Afaik, there's no need for a 3rd part hosting and hasn't been for years. The only little glitch with this is the image or images always goes at the bottom after your text. To me that's a small aggravation to avoid 3rd party hosting unless it's your own website.

Bob

I tried what you said, 4th button from the left, but when I click it I get a box to enter a URL and no option to upload from my computer. So, in order to use this feature I have to store my image somewhere else. Is there a setting somewhere that needs to be changed for me to have this feature?

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#554493 - 09/12/19 07:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Pictures that I want to use, I keep in File Explorer. To upload a pic you click on File Manager, below your post, click on Choose File, then whatever folder in File Explorer you have your pics, choose your pic/file.
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#554497 - 09/12/19 08:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Wow this thread took unexpected turns smile

Cerio (or pipeline or Jim...) can you please rewind just a little. I missed the party. Where do these "aftermarket" RealDrums live?
I tried the site pipeline mentioned, but it is sleeping...

Thank you.

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#554510 - 09/12/19 11:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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www.RealBand.org it has a lot of stuff but not as many as Cerio had, it has a link to Cerio's drum site and Norton Music.
https://www.realband.org/drums.html
https://www.realband.org/tutorial-drums1.html
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#554511 - 09/13/19 12:06 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Sorry, JJJ, I told you wrong, it's been a while. You do that BELOW the Reply window where it says File Manager. It's the File Manager window that opens up to where you browse your computer and insert the pics. And now Pipeline just explained how to put them anywhere you want. I didn't know that one.

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#554524 - 09/13/19 02:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Pipeline,
http://realdrumsforbiab.com/ this link is dead.... Did it have actual realdrums for sale or midi styles? I assume this is Cerio's site: realdrumsforbiab.com ?

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#554529 - 09/13/19 03:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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He went out of business a while ago.

I did buy from him as well, although I've never used any of his products in any project.


Edited by LtKojak (09/13/19 03:03 AM)
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#554532 - 09/13/19 03:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Rustyspoon#]
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If you send Cerio a PM he would probably work out something for you.
I think this was all of them, but there may have been more ? :


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#554871 - 09/14/19 09:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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You get bugs and then you get people who have no idea how to use a software program, mostly because they have failed to LEARN how to use it properly.

There are other music programs I've used and got so frustrated when I couldn't get something to work, all because I FAILED to read the instructions properly and was too impatient to work through the process.

A program like BIAB is so complex, but yet we get individuals who think it's as easy as switching a light switch on and off.


Edited by rallypally (09/14/19 09:49 PM)

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#554872 - 09/14/19 10:00 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: rallypally]
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Originally Posted By: rallypally
You get bugs and then you get people who have no idea how to use a software program, mostly because they have failed to LEARN how to use it properly.

I somehow doubt that this is the case for the O/P in this instance.

Any programs may have operational issues, but they should not crash. In general, good robust programs have exception handlers to catch errors and handle them properly, even errors caused by operators. They should not crash. I don't know anyone who would argue that crashing is an acceptable outcome for any program to operate.

The difficulty with programs such as BiaB is that the issue might be created by a fault in a mapped 3rd party DLL. This is challenging (but probably not impossible) to deal with.
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#554929 - 09/15/19 07:30 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Okay, I'm late this to this topic (and, perhaps, speaking prematurely as I haven't read all the replies, yet) but I've NEVER had a problem with BIAB. Never.

Haven't said that, I don't have BIAB 2019. Plan on upgrading with BIAB 2020.

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#555025 - 09/16/19 12:10 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: rokq22]
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I remember before VideoTrack suggested to PG to have an error report dialog it would just crash out but now we get that dialog and it don't crash out.


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#555065 - 09/16/19 08:08 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: rallypally]
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Originally Posted By: rallypally

A program like BIAB is so complex, but yet we get individuals who think it's as easy as switching a light switch on and off.


Ironically, I suppose, it was exactly this feature that initially attracted me to BiaB. For the longest time, I used BiaB as a backing tracks player and little else. And it was because of the ease with which I was able to use it as such that led me to continue to use it. And I've been in the upgrade path, off and on, since about 1998.

I didn't find the earlier versions of BiaB I had to be buggy, really. There were aspects of the program that I thought were clumsy, however, which BiaB slowly solved. But sadly I've found the more recent versions to be buggier than early ones. I used 2017 heavily until I upgraded to 2019. I was very productive with 2017 and fortunately the bugs I encountered were few. But 2019 has given me fits ever since I installed it. My productivity has been close to zero with BiaB ever since. I finally got so tired of dealing with the problems I've been having with 2019 that I re-installed 2017, and I'm back to being a happy, productive composer once again. And let me just say this -- if 2020 is as bad as 2019 is, I won't be upgrading. Unfortunately I guess the only way I'll find out is if I buy a copy, at which point I'll just keep my fingers crossed. But it won't surprise me if I have to take advantage of their money-back guarantee. And believe me, I won't be happy if I have to give up on 2020, but if it demonstrates the same problems I had with 2019, then I will have no use for it.
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#555080 - 09/16/19 09:56 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Michael, did you post any details of issues you had with 2019? If yes, please post a link to that thread. If no, then why not?

I just did a forum search using your username to see what you've posted about 2019 problems. I found this one

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=515707&page=2

This is exactly what I've been saying not only in this thread but for years to anybody. This wasn't your thread but you chimed in with a comment about a stuck midi note. Did you start your own thread about that? No. Several people in that thread say stuff about problems with no details including you. Then the beta testers chime in saying they are not having this issue. I didn't post in that thread because they had it covered. Notice at the end Pipeline found the issue and MusicStudent had to admit it was user error.

You CANNOT simply drop bombs like what you just wrote here and never post what the problems are with a detailed description. That's very unfair.

I used 2017 heavily until I upgraded to 2019. I was very productive with 2017 and fortunately the bugs I encountered were few. But 2019 has given me fits ever since I installed it. My productivity has been close to zero with BiaB ever since. I finally got so tired of dealing with the problems I've been having with 2019 that I re-installed 2017, and I'm back to being a happy, productive composer once again.

You finally got so tired of dealing with the problems. WHAT PROBLEMS??

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#555084 - 09/16/19 11:29 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: jazzmammal]
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I am a long time user of BiaB but I have complained a number of times about things that I would like to see changed, like opening up MIDI channels, menus, etc. BUT when I use BiaB as it was designed to use I don't have any issues or crashes. I believe that a lot of issues that happen are either user issues, computer issues, or using BiaB for purposes that it was not really designed to do, with the later being a big one. YMMV

PS - As everyone's workflow is different this does not mean there are not bugs to be found.
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#555122 - 09/16/19 05:22 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: Cerio]
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Bob, I recall the stuck note thread. I chimed in because I was experiencing it, and had never experienced it before, even with the same pieces of music. As I dimly recall, PGM fixed the bug. Problem solved, I found no point in discussing it further.

As for the other problems I've had -- well, chiefly one, but there have been others -- a person gets tired of beating a dead horse, so to speak. I've complained about the problems I've had, starting with 2017 and continuing with 2019, more than once. I'm surprised you weren't able to find any. I'll go take a look and do a search -- hang on. Found it. Following is a rather lengthy thread I began on 2/6/19. You even responded on one occasion -- blaming the new problems I was experiencing on existing hardware and software that had been working just fine. My last post was on 3/1/19. It was an optimistic post, too, but unfortunately the problems returned. I just didn't see much point in flogging deceased equines any further.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=522876

Mario, if you were to check out my setup, I think you would find I'm a rather textbook example of a mid-level user. I don't even know how to get into trouble with this software, although I'll freely admit, I can probably get it done accidentally.



Edited by cooltouch (09/17/19 05:29 AM)
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#555134 - 09/16/19 08:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB Software Version, Hello Biab Hardware Version [Re: Cerio]
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#555205 - 09/17/19 01:03 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Bye bye, BIAB [Re: cooltouch]
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I just read your thread from last February, very convoluted with a gazillion questions about your system where some were answered and some were not. I can't figure out what finally fixed it, something about reinstalling Biab in a different directory, then doing a Return to Factory settings? Not sure what that all means but it doesn't sound like a problem with Biab itself.

You're still saying you can't use 2019 so what's the problem now?

Bob
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