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Also, I don't know how badly broken your old version of BIAB is. If you still have most of the files, the chances are any additional styles etc. that you bought would still work. So if you are really strapped for cash you could buy the cheapest no add-ons version of BIAB and copy the stuff from your old version.

But as VideoTrack says, traditionally the next version of BIAB comes out in December and there are usually discount offers that include lots of stuff bundled in the package. So if you can wait, do.

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HI Again

You don’t say if you still have the biab folder present on your drive.
Or if you lost every thing by re formatting the hard drive.
If you just reinstalled or repaired windows without reformatting the hard drive then the c: bb folder should still be there.
If it is but its just a case that it no longer runs , it may well help to download and install the last update for version 10
Band-in-a-Box® Version 10.0c Update (505 KB)
This patch will update Band-in-a-Box® version 10.0 - 10.0b to version 10.0c. Please note that you must have versions 10.0 to use the update. If you are using any other version, the update will not succeed.
You will find this at
https://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm

scroll towards the bottom of the page to find this

You may also need to run the installer from the C: bb folder to install a couple of bits in your new copy of windows ( fonts etc )

Hope this is some help.
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Lesson learned, always back up your system.

But that doesn't solve your problem. If none of the previous suggestions work then head to Ebay. They have a number of old BiaB versions available. If you purchase a newer version make sure that it comes with a registration number.

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I managed to rescue the folder exactly as it was pre-crash, and thought that pasting it back in after recovery would work, but I get an error message saying that it is incompatible with the version of Windows that I am running. I have tried the upgrades, as well as every method out there to try to get it going, but nothing works.

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There is still information missing here.

Do you have BIAB Version 10, or Version 2010? Go to Help, About.

What version of Windows are you using? Windows may have to be run in compatibility mode.

BIAB of any version will open the files made by BIAB of any version, unless there are perhaps plugins involved. We need to know details.

What was the exact error message, and what were the exact steps you took to get that error?


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I am using version 10 (not 2010) on Windows 7. I have tried every compatibility mode but none of them work.

I don't know of any plugins being used.

The error message appeared after I had to factory reset my computer. I can't remember exactly what it says so I will let you know later (I am out using mobile data at the moment)

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Hi
HI just a thought there are two versions with similar numbers
Make sure you get the update for the right version
Version 10 update A B OR latest C
As well as Version 10 links that I posted earlier there is another much later version from 10 years later this is

Band-in-a-Box® Version 2010.5 Build 308 Update (25 MB)

was the last version

This is available in the same place as all updates see my other link

Mike.
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I have tried using these updates, but they didn't work either.

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Biab was still 16 bit back then I believe. Does it mean anything????


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HI as you have rebuilt windows7
I am fairly certain you will have to rerun the installer from your BIAB folder.
To set it up in Windows 7 with fonts and other bits
I would do this in compatibility mode for an older version of windows as it will be well pre W7

Not certain what the installer EXE file is called but you should be able to identify it by its name (do not try to use the ordinary bb.exe that is used for running the installed program.
Some one may be able to help with the installer name.
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The exact error messages for the several errors you report will be very helpful.

When you said PG Music couldn’t help, what did you ask them?


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Biab was still 16 bit back then I believe. Does it mean anything????


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A brief recap of what lead me here and questions answered...

1. Running BIAB Version 10 on Windows 7 Home Premium with Service Pack 1, 64-bit.

2. BIAB would not load beyond welcome screen - in the Task Manager, it did not appear in Applications but did appear under Processes.

3. Ran check for viruses and malware, system clean.

4. Ran Disk Defrag which crashed system (would not boot)

5. Removed hard drive and rescued documents and programs. Reinstalled Windows 7.

6. Pasted BIAB folder back into computer and attempted to run. Received the error message:

The version of this file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running. Check your computers system information to see whether you need an x86 (32-bit) or x64 (64-bit) version of the program, and then contact the software publisher.

7. Have tried running all available compatibility modes, DOS emulators, software updates and all sorts of solutions that I found online to run 32-bit programs on a 64-bit system, but nothing has worked. I am unsure if this version of BIAB is 32-bit or 16-bit.

8. I cannot reinstall the program as the original installation discs were lost in a move a few years ago.

9. I contacted PG Music and asked them what my options were given the above circumstances. Given that the program was bought from a third party via eBay and I failed to register it, they were unable to help me.

10. I am ready to throw my computer out the window.

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I could be wrong, but I also think BIAB was 16 bit at v10, so it's not going to work at all in a 64 bit OS.

One thing you can try, which should work, is to install XP Mode on Windows 7, if you haven't already (assuming XP Mode is still available) and then run BIAB 10 in an XP virtual machine. XP should be able to run 16 bit apps. Just don't install the Roland VSC-3 Sound Canvas, which won't work on XP.


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It worked fine before all of this happened, so I can't understand why it won't now.

Either way, I have tried your suggestion, but it did not work.

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If I get a chance, I'll try to re-install my old BIAB 10 on Win7 and see what happens. Are you running 32bit Win7 or 64bit Win7?


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Jack,

Have you always run Win 7 64-bit?

In the past if you had run Windows 7 32-bit, or an earlier Windows 32-bit version, the program may have worked and if you re-installed or updated to Windows 7 64-bit, this could have caused the problem.

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No, it was always 64-bit. At this point, I'm tempted to do another factory reset, this time on 32-bit, just to see if that would fix it.

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If BIAB is an old 16bit program and you have updated to Window 7 64bit that may be the problem. Switching to Window 7 32bit might be easier. There are options to get a 16 bit program running on Windows 7 64bit. These might help..

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2045345/run-an-old-program-on-a-new-pc.html

https://www.researchgate.net/post/How_can_we_run_16_bit_applications_in_windows_7_64bit

But this looks like a lot of work. Probably finding a way to get a new version of BIAB would be the best route.

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