Biab should be able to be made to do this as it works with the conductor ok, but for now this can be done in Reaper by dragging the Biab master stereo track into Reaper, the chords are imported from BB musicXML or via the Biab Plugin. You just create up say 4 bars of all the chords you will be playing. Reaper uses a midi chord detection plugin for detecting what chords are being played on the midi keyboard. A script will send the play head smoothly to that region chord, the chords can be changed on the beat or bar. The script will also read keyswitches of this first octave or octave you set, these keyswitches will tell Reaper what section to play next, verse, chorus, solo, verse ending, chorus ending, count-in etc.. Different styles can be loaded into each track, temp changed and track soloed. You can also use another vst in front of it to use 1 finger chords. https://trackbout.com/ripchord https://www.codefn42.com/chordz/ http://www.vst4free.com/free_vst.php?plugin=midiChords&id=1642 Insert Piz Midi VSTs Google Code Archive https://code.google.com/archive/p/pizmidi/downloads
The video is just the prototype with a few chords example and live chord input, I just want to see if this is something that would be usable to enable users to play live chord input into BB styles ??
If you could try this out, it still needs a bit of work but I just need some feedback. Right click Save Link/Target As ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip I'll make a better guide if it's all working ok. After you have the Chord Player installed in Reaper from the guide below, run ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua from the Action window or from the "Chord Region Player" button. Create a Chord Input Track when asked "Yes"
Options > Preferences > MIDI Devices > enable Input from your keyboard. On the Chord Input Midi track select your keyboard as Midi Input.
To get a Chord Font in the display right click chords.ttf > Install in Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer Scripts\ReaTrak\chords.ttf
Set the keyswitches to the notes in the pic or to your choice (these will be saved for next time) Set the Keyswitch Octave to 1 or your choice. You can also click the buttons on the GUI.
The idea is to generate up the tracks you need in Biab or Biab Plugin. You generate up say 4 or more bars of the chords you will be using. You can have more than 1 of the same chord region to give more variety. Same with Endings. If you want Holds also you can have a maximum of 4 bars per hold. You can generate up solos that can be put into the other color regions.
After you have generated up you track in BB or BB Plugin drag the stereo wav into a track under the Chord Input track. If the song is a different tempo than Reaper set Reaper to the bpm first. Edit the track name so it has the tempo in it "My Song 4 120bpm" this will allow you to have multiple tracks with different styles an tempos, as you select UP/Down it should solo the track and change the tempo.` You can also have all the individual instrument tracks in a track "Folder" if need be.
To get the chords from BB into Reaper you can save as MusicXML, drag that into Reaper and hit the button "MusicXML Chords". But if you have the BB Plugin just open the My Song.SGU, Unfold down the bottom right, save the My Song - Plugin.SGU reopen it again in the BB Plugin then hit the "Biab Plugin Chords" button, try it without fill regions for now as I will try and add auto fills to it.
You can add your own chord regions, just select the section, Shift+R and right click the region to edit name or color, but the easiest way is use the "*GUI*" "*GUI 2*" or "Circle of Fifths" buttons, you can then easily enter the chords or section color. If you have the cursor under a chord region you can change the section color by clicking the colored buttons on the main panel. Make sure you have Snap on and hit "Snap Chords to Grid" after.
For those new to Reaper this might be an easier way to install/update ReaTrak. 1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!
This is changing styles that have a different bpm, you just need "xxxbpm" in the track name. You can Edit the track name or have it in the wav file name you drag in. Just make sure to change Reaper to that tempo before dropping in the wav, or you can export the BB mix with ACID.
I made a video demo, it only has a few chords and one 4 bar section for each. You can add a lot more to give more variety rather than playing the same 4 bar chord section. The video is a bit jerky in places as there are a lot of things running and screen recording at the same time. It will play smoothly from chord to chord normally. The clicking is the chord pad as I have no keyboards here at the moment, so if someone could try it with their keyboard that would help. It will also play direct from the BB Plugin without dragging any tracks in Reaper. You could have a BB Plugin on each track with a different style at a different bpm.
Has anyone with Reaper and a keyboard tired this out yet ? I don't have a keyboard here at the moment as I lend them out. So if someone can give some feedback it would help.
Has anyone with Reaper and a keyboard tired this out yet ? I don't have a keyboard here at the moment as I lend them out. So if someone can give some feedback it would help.
Hey Pipeline,
I'd be thrilled to give it a shot. Thing is, I've got a fresh install of Reaper, and want to set up every chordpicker tool, utility, and script you've got on tap.
Thing is, there are so many threads and posts you have scattered piecemeal all over the forums with all different dates, I have no idea what order and what versions I should install things in...
Note that I've already got the SWS and Reascript extensions loaded.
Is there any chance you can post a comprehensive list of all the latest versions of your goodies (along with a link to the videos that are most current) so I don't start reinstalling things over each other, or install things that are really only relevant pre-BiaB 2019 VST?
BTW, you may want to post these in a new thread for others who may want to similarly avail themselves.
Finally, once I'm all set up, I would be thrilled to plug in my MIDI keyboard and sort this other stuff out...
Thanks again for all your amazing contributions!!!
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The website is down at the moment so here is the same file as above https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca06iq6xxgza20y/ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip?dl=1 it has all the latest scripts the one in the forum ReaTrak_ver.46.ReaperConfigZip is the latest but without the chord player, once this is working ok I'll add it to the ReaTrak_ver.47.ReaperConfigZip release. Use the guide above to install into Reaper, there a youtube video as well.
If you could try this out, it still needs a bit of work but I just need some feedback. Right click Save Link/Target As ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player.ReaperConfigZip I'll make a better guide if it's all working ok. After you have the Chord Player installed in Reaper from the guide below, run ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua from the Action window or from the "Chord Region Player" button. Create a Chord Input Track when asked "Yes"
Options > Preferences > MIDI Devices > enable Input from your keyboard. On the Chord Input Midi track select your keyboard as Midi Input.
To get a Chord Font in the display right click chords.ttf > Install in Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer Scripts\ReaTrak\chords.ttf
Set the keyswitches to the notes in the pic or to your choice (these will be saved for next time) Set the Keyswitch Octave to 1 or your choice. You can also click the buttons on the GUI.
The idea is to generate up the tracks you need in Biab or Biab Plugin. You generate up say 4 or more bars of the chords you will be using. You can have more than 1 of the same chord region to give more variety. Same with Endings. If you want Holds also you can have a maximum of 4 bars per hold. You can generate up solos that can be put into the other color regions.
After you have generated up you track in BB or BB Plugin drag the stereo wav into a track under the Chord Input track. If the song is a different tempo than Reaper set Reaper to the bpm first. Edit the track name so it has the tempo in it "My Song 4 120bpm" this will allow you to have multiple tracks with different styles an tempos, as you select UP/Down it should solo the track and change the tempo.` You can also have all the individual instrument tracks in a track "Folder" if need be.
To get the chords from BB into Reaper you can save as MusicXML, drag that into Reaper and hit the button "MusicXML Chords". But if you have the BB Plugin just open the My Song.SGU, Unfold down the bottom right, save the My Song - Plugin.SGU reopen it again in the BB Plugin then hit the "Biab Plugin Chords" button, try it without fill regions for now as I will try and add auto fills to it.
You can add your own chord regions, just select the section, Shift+R and right click the region to edit name or color, but the easiest way is use the "*GUI*" "*GUI 2*" or "Circle of Fifths" buttons, you can then easily enter the chords or section color. If you have the cursor under a chord region you can change the section color by clicking the colored buttons on the main panel. Make sure you have Snap on and hit "Snap Chords to Grid" after.
For those new to Reaper this might be an easier way to install/update ReaTrak. 1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!
Right click on Toolbar 1 tab > Customize toolbar... at the top left drop down Select > Floating toolbar 14, 15, or 16 at the bottom right > Import (this should take you to REAPER\MenuSets) you should see ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu select the appropriate number (you can change the toolbar slot by dragging it into Notepad and change the number to another slot.
Right click on Toolbar 1 tab > Customize toolbar... at the top left drop down Select > Floating toolbar 14, 15, or 16 at the bottom right > Import (this should take you to REAPER\MenuSets) you should see ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu select the appropriate number (you can change the toolbar slot by dragging it into Notepad and change the number to another slot.
No that's if you open a ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu in notepad. You can drag the tab of the toolbar and drop it where you like on the Main GUI.
No that's if you open a ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu in notepad. You can drag the tab of the toolbar and drop it where you like on the Main GUI.
Fantastic! Do you know of any shortcuts to switch between toolbars (preferably closing the one before, or even binding each shortcut to a key combination switchable by, say, a digit?)
You're the best, Pipeline!
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Also, when I go to the action list, the script is not appearing under any of the submenus despite the fact that it is showing up under the actions list.
...actually I just realized I did not re-synchronize Reapack or the SWS extensions. Doing that now.
Will update
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Just replace the script with the new one. You should see "Chord Region Player" button bottom right in Toolbar. Or Action menu > Show action list > type chord region player > run.
You can try it with the plugin just add 4 bars for each chord you will be using for now. Save the chord as SGU, Open > SGU to reopen it. "Biab Plugin Chords" button or run script. Don't create fills, I'm working on that now so it will play a fill when you hit the same chord again or automatically after so many beat counts.
Just replace the script with the new one. You should see "Chord Region Player" button bottom right in Toolbar. Or Action menu > Show action list > type chord region player > run.
You can try it with the plugin just add 4 bars for each chord you will be using for now. Save the chord as SGU, Open > SGU to reopen it. "Biab Plugin Chords" button or run script. Don't create fills, I'm working on the now so it will play a fill when you hit the same chord again or automatically after so many beat counts.
Is that shown in the screenshot the right version? I'm pretty sure I replaced it already.
BTW, the script is not showing up in the action list even though it's on the toolbar. Also, when I press it, nothing launches.
Do I need to create the BiaB track first?
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It plays smooth within the plugin but you can drag the master track out into a Reaper track and mute the plugin. Just make sure you have the xxbpm in the track name box. You can have a plugin on each track at a different temp and style, just load the common SGU into them.
OK. I saved it as Pipeline120bpm.SGU, reopned the file, dragged it into Reaper but there is no meta-data/chord regions as shown in your vids. The buttons on the toolbar are unresponsive.
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You reopen the file in the Biab Plugin, now hit the Biab Plugin Chords button in the ReaTrack toolbar, it will ask on first time run for the Song.txt in bb\ select No to create Fill regions
Tried again, and I fear I may have screwed something up :-(
On that note, any idea why I can't locate the Appdata roaming folder via file explorer via the same path I can open via Reaper's "show resource path" ?
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OK, installed new script, but when I try to run the action I'm still getting this:
ReaTrak import chords from biab plugin.lua:145: cannot open file 'C:\Users\Intel\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\Scripts\ReaTrak\Song.txt' (No such file or directory)
How do I redirect it to the proper path?
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Tried again, and I fear I may have screwed something up :-(
On that note, any idea why I can't locate the Appdata roaming folder via file explorer via the same path I can open via Reaper's "show resource path" ?
In Explorer > Show Hidden Files/Folders
the chord.ttf right click on it Install same for LeagueGothic-CondensedItalic.ttf
You need to go to the bb\ folder that is where Song.txt is
I don't understand what the purpose of the txt file you show is?
My latest roadblock started when it wanted to import a tff file the first time I tried running the BiaB plugins chord script from the docker (and, as you demonstrated earlier in the thread, was supposed to be under the Appdata/roaming etc path).
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The Song.txt that you open with "Biab Plugin Chords" will have the chord info in it for Reaper to insert chord regions. If you open that text you will see bar number and chord names.
Tried again, and I fear I may have screwed something up :-(
On that note, any idea why I can't locate the Appdata roaming folder via file explorer via the same path I can open via Reaper's "show resource path" ?
In Explorer > Show Hidden Files/Folders
the chord.ttf right click on it Install same for LeagueGothic-CondensedItalic.ttf
these will give Fonts in the GUI's
Yay!!! Checking to display the hidden files and folders did the trick!!!
However, I'm not given a prompt re: how I might cure this error by redirecting the path.
ReaTrak import chords from biab plugin.lua:145: cannot open file 'C:\Users\Intel\AppData\Roaming\REAPER\Scripts\ReaTrak\Song.txt' (No such file or directory)
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The Song.txt that you open with "Biab Plugin Chords" will have the chord info in it for Reaper to insert chord regions. If you open that text you will see bar number and chord names.
See my latest post
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I see what's happened you opened a file in the appdata folder so it's set that as the bb Song.txt folder So show the reaper resource path and in the root you will see REAPER.INI open it and search for the line reatrak_bb_folder delete the line or change it to reatrak_bb_folder=C:\bb\ (or where bb is)
I see what's happened you opened a file in the appdata folder so it's set that as the bb Song.txt folder So show the reaper resource path and in the root you will see REAPER.INI open it and search for the line reatrak_bb_folder delete the line or change it to reatrak_bb_folder=C:\bb\ (or where bb is)
This took me waaaay longer than I thought, and I have some stuff to take care of, but I'll be back later in the afternoon to address the other matters.
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While I still have you here, and because you may not be available to communicate further when I try to test out whatever it was with the keyboard, I just want to clarify. The idea is to press play in Reaper (after I run the script we've been going over), and it will jam in key along with the chord changes?
Is there another step before we get there, as in a another script I need to run that will input MIDI chords in Reaper as you demonstrated in the UJAM bass piano and keys video?
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Ok I'll go to bed. Thanks for trying it as I know how to improve things now to make it easier to install and use. I will make a full easy step by step guide. Then when you learnt it you can make some more of those great videos.
Ok I'll go to bed. Thanks for trying it as I know how to improve things now to make it easier to install and use. I will make a full easy step by step guide. Then when you learnt it you can make some more of those great videos.
Thanks for the compliment!
TBH, the chord to MIDI part opens up so many doors, I will definitely be making a video about it once I have it down :-)
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Just want to let you guys know I've been following this closely. I really like playing arranger keyboards, they're a lot of fun so to be able to run Biab as a live arranger would be very cool.
I just installed Reaper two days ago and I put several VST's on midi tracks and I have sound with a midi file so that's a good start. We all have life issues to deal with along with learning something new like this so I totally appreciate what you guys are doing. An example with me, I live in mountains in California in a fire hazard area and they just cut the power this morning so I'm running the computer and my fridge off a generator right now.
Just want to let you guys know I've been following this closely. I really like playing arranger keyboards, they're a lot of fun so to be able to run Biab as a live arranger would be very cool.
I just installed Reaper two days ago and I put several VST's on midi tracks and I have sound with a midi file so that's a good start. We all have life issues to deal with along with learning something new like this so I totally appreciate what you guys are doing. An example with me, I live in mountains in California in a fire hazard area and they just cut the power this morning so I'm running the computer and my fridge off a generator right now.
Bob
So for me the most exciting thing is the ability to "print" midi chords and have chord progression instantly render into regions in Reaper. After the whole ordeal Pipeline was gracious enough to endure with me, the moment I hit the button to run the script and watching everything fall into place hitting another button which populated a track with MIDI chords (including clean neat MIDI lines with every chord note and all the extensions starting and ending perfectly flush with each measure!...something I've never been able to do with BiaB "held" MIDI piano tracks, and, as far as I know, simply can't be done with BiaB...) my heart leapt right into my throat!
The arranger thing also sounds amazing, and something I hope to get a handle on soon :-)
Good luck with your getting your power back and stay safe, Bob!
Best wishes,
Deacon
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While I still have you here, and because you may not be available to communicate further when I try to test out whatever it was with the keyboard, I just want to clarify. The idea is to press play in Reaper (after I run the script we've been going over), and it will jam in key along with the chord changes?
Is there another step before we get there, as in a another script I need to run that will input MIDI chords in Reaper as you demonstrated in the UJAM bass piano and keys video?
Yes you just press Play/Stop on the Chord Player GUI or the associated keyswitch on the keyboard, as you need to set the default keyswitches the same as in the pic, that's if you have the GUI working now ? try all the GUI's *GUI* *GUI 2* Circle of Fifths and GUI Menu. If you click the "Midi Chord Track" button it will give you you midi chord track for instruments to follow.
Just want to let you guys know I've been following this closely. I really like playing arranger keyboards, they're a lot of fun so to be able to run Biab as a live arranger would be very cool.
I just installed Reaper two days ago and I put several VST's on midi tracks and I have sound with a midi file so that's a good start. We all have life issues to deal with along with learning something new like this so I totally appreciate what you guys are doing. An example with me, I live in mountains in California in a fire hazard area and they just cut the power this morning so I'm running the computer and my fridge off a generator right now.
Bob
Bob, please be safe and evacuate as quickly as possible if need be.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up. Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
I repacked this with reaper save configuration and tried it on a clean install of Windows 10 and everything seems to work fine now. I was using Windows zip to pack it but it was not updating the files. Right click Save Link/Target As ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player2.0.ReaperConfigZip
I repacked this with reaper save configuration and tried it on a clean install of Windows 10 and everything seems to work fine now. I was using Windows zip to pack it but it was not updating the files. Right click Save Link/Target As ReaTrak_Region_Chord_Player2.0.ReaperConfigZip
Save as what? And what do you mean install? Is this an executable? Should I extract this before dragging it elsewhere?
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I realize what my mistake was (in case it may help anyone else...) Basically I tried running the script after I generated and dragged the track in, but before I ran the BiaB chord script. Once I ran the latter, the former wormed fine!
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You don't have a count-in so the track should start at the blue G as the pink is 2 bar count-in
Ah yes, forget to change the 1 to -1 in project settings.
You're a straight up genius, Pipeline!
BTW, I'm messing around with all the functions in the docker (which, I must admit, is a bit cluttered and hard to locate specific functions in...), and I'm trying to figure out how the holds/shots/rests would work given that the tracks are already generated and sitting as audio tracks w/in the DAW.
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Also, the GUIs' functionalities are absolutely stunning. STUNNING!
I can see how they are incredibly useful in the context of MIDI, and with recording or live playing/snapping and quantizing scales to chords etc. but are they meant to integrate with RTs/RTs due to the reasons I mentioned in my previous post?
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In the GUI the section functions are sorted a bit better. the Holds/Shots are for https://www.reatrak.com/downloads/test_files/ you just select the bars when you want to generate them, "Choose Instrument" from ReaTrak Instruments folder or ReaTrak Drums folder, "ReaTrak Selection"
Next note: when I try and click chords on the circle of fifths utility, instead of entering a chord it simply cycles the play-head between region start times.
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In the GUI the section functions are sorted a bit better. the Holds/Shots are for https://www.reatrak.com/downloads/test_files/ you just select the bars when you want to generate them, "Choose Instrument" from ReaTrak Instruments folder or ReaTrak Drums folder, "ReaTrak Selection"
Ah I see, that's gonna be a hard pass from me, lol.
I'd rather just generate a selection of bars within the BiaB VST, and splice/insert align them wherever needed. I'm guessing that was something with much more utility prior to the 2019 release w/ the plugin. Am I understanding that right?
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.. I'm guessing that was something with much more utility prior to the 2019 release w/ the plugin. Am I understanding that right?
That was made before the plugin, basically for usertracks so you can have more control over them than in Biab, as you get holds/shots, midi, audio and video, you then import into Biab.
BTW, I looked into the chord picker utility this morning to see if I could get it to run within the BiaB VST, and I couldn't even install it properly with the latest attached files in your linked post.
Anything new with that?
Editing to add (I love how the utility is integrated into the GUI, but that's post BiaB chord generation. I'm asking specifically about running it w/in the BiaB plugin.
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What one are you trying to use ? was it the Compact 768 version or the Reaper Biab Plugin version ?
Both. Something went wrong after the install. Don't remember what the error message was.
In any event, I have some stuff to do now (including recording and posting my next video, hopefully) so I'll have to revisit this later (as well as the playalong function that launched this whole thread!)
Thanks again for everything Pipeline!
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Ah, that's very helpful as I installed what was included in the link provided in our latest post linked in your profile signature. You may want to update that ;-)
Later Pipeline.
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For those new to Reaper this is an easier way to install/update ReaTrak. To Show Reaper Resource Path Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer
1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!
2. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip (you can copy it to REAPER\Configurations folder first)
3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Main Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap
4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Main Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap
5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Midi Editor Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap
6. Reaper > View > Toolbar Docker add or change toolbar from REAPER\MenuSets right click a toolbar tab > Open toolbar > 14,15 or 16 right click the opened toolbar tab > Customize in the drop down top left select the associated toolbar 14,15 or 16 at the bottom right Import > ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu
I just unzipped the Reaper picker BiabVST Chord Picker Reaper x64.exe to C:\Program Files\Biab Chord Picker Tool
Works awesome!!!
Hey, as an aside, I've spent over 5 hours trying to record a 1/2 video on separating drum layers from Realdrums and rendering them into individual stems using Regroover Essential by feeding sending a MIDI signal (track 1) into an empty track hosting the Regroover plugin VST (track 2) and then recording the audio output into track 3 as a receive.
I also think it would be awesome to inspire folks here by making a quick video demonstrating how I can get pumping trance chords, arppegiated lead sounds, and bowel shaking dubstep bass wobbles, and EDM drum loops (all generated on a single MIDI track rendered via the BiaB Plugin Chords > MIDI chord track scripts!) to play along with, say, a jazzy sax solo and mellow piano background layered with some fusion type drums supplied by BiaB.
AFAIK, this (the MIDI part) is impossible with BiaB when you entered a chord with more than 3, MAYBE 4 tones. The closest I could get is with the Held piano MIDI, but even with that, it was a nightmare extending out empty spaces, and adding notes etc... When you want your MIDI to 'jam' subdivided chord patterns, run bass sequences, and Rompler drum loops (a la Xpand2, and Kontakt's Urban Beats), the held piano styles were virtually useless, as a single gap in the MIDI line would through the whole production off course....
Now back to the point; basically all my sends and receives get messed up and refuse to record output when I use my microphone headset to record the video. Furthermore, I get ambient noise bleeding through into the armed/record output track. I know this probably has a relatively simple fix "under the hood," but I don't feel confident enough to start messing around with the whole input/output routing matrix stuff because every-time I try, I end up making the whole situation even worse.
Is it possible to simply prevent Reaper from recognizing my mic in the first place? I'm thinking something I could set up under the Device Manager itself, so that my recording software will pick up the mic and all sounds coming from my PC, but Repear will only "hear" what's happening in Reaper is if I didn't have a mic plugged in at all.
Thanks in advance!
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I'm half asleep now but I will give some info now and look at it better in the morning. Active Presenter is free and will record multi audio devices to multiple audio tracks that you can adjust before render. VoiceMeeter Banana will let you have other audio devices like VB Cable, Hi-Fi Cable you can get these on the same site. I have my Windows set to VB Cable and Reaper Set to VoiceMeeter AUX ASIO, Biab set to VoiceMeeter ASIO. Check it out and see how you go.
Wow, you guys are just movin right along. I wish I could jump in but it's just impossible right now. As for my power outage thanks for the good thoughts, this one turned out to be a maintenance one, it wasn't due to any fires in the area.
These outages are upsetting a whole lot of people because they wern't doing that years ago and despite news reports the fires are no worse now than they were then. The problem is the power companies have been found liable for BILLIONS because their lameassed old equipment sparks and has caused many of these fires so now they just shut off everybody's power at the drop of a hat. Sorry a bit of an off topic rant there.
Anyway, this Reaper/Biab thing is looking pretty slick.
When you're ready it should be working pretty good. I'm just adding the play fill part so if you hit the same chord it will play a fill or you set it to auto play a fill after so many bars. You can add a keyswitch to bring the soloist in and then fade it out. You could get it to bring in soloist 1 or soloist 2 by having "soloist #" in the track name.
Wow, yet another cool utility you've turned me onto. :-)
BTW, unless I've overlooked something, there are no add9 chords in the chord picker tool. I really LOVE the sound of those chords. Any chance you'll be adding them in?
Thanks in advance!
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highlight > Script: ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua and click Edit copy this text if notenums == "0,4,7"
click back on the script window ctrl+F ctrl+V Enter
will take you to the chords you can see what ones are missing and let me know or you can add the chord in 0 being the root of the chord and 4 being 4 notes up from 0, 7 being 7 notes up from 0 ctrl+S to save and re-run
Sorry I was looking at the chord player not the chord picker. So it needs a Cadd2 (add9) button as BB uses the 2 for the 9 ?
Sorry, just saw this now.
I'm pretty sure there have been multiple threads about the add9 chord issue, and, from what I understand, it remains very much an issue :-(
I never really mentioned the matter in the context of BiaB because since the program does so poorly with most extended chords as it is, whether or not the chord was symbolically added, it probably would not generate correctly when entered--even in MIDI--so I kinda gave up on having my favorite chord play--which could be incredible in MIDI--especially when using arpeggiotars and sequence based VSTis.
Your scripts have opened up doors for me I've hardly dared dream of in the context of MIDI. The notes populate as many measures as you like, without break, given long ramp times for evolving synth patches to swell and percolate (with BaiB the most you could enter via the piano roll was a dotted whole note...and there was no ability to join notes). Also, every note in a chord is fully represented.
After setting up your scripts in Reaper, I've been connecting with the BiaB process like never before. The possibilities are endless! Thanks you so much!
Edit: a sus2 chord is not an add9 chord, and I have no idea why BaiB would advance that position...
Edit 2: Just read your previous post a little more closely, and realized I launched my rant to quickly. I didn't realize that add2 and sus2 were diff ways BaiB handled their naming conventions in this context.
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Sorry I was looking at the chord player not the chord picker. So it needs a Cadd2 (add9) button as BB uses the 2 for the 9 ?
Why would BaiB do this anyway? the 2 and 9 are an octave apart, and the main reason I love the add9 chord is the unique characteristic the higher note adds.
Maybe I should have followed those other threads more closely, lol. Fact is that my work volume fluctuates significantly during certain periods of the year (kinda like with CPAs when closer to tax season). So how much I'm involved in what goes in the forums at any given time is very varied...
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If you are restricted with the 255 SGU bar limit you can do it with the Biab Plugin by highlight the existing chord regions in Reaper then "Insert Bars" then "Biab Plugin Chords". You can also use RealBand as it will also let you create lots of different endings and sections. You can then save the chords as musicXML then drag n drop into Reaper and use the "MusicXML Chords" button.
In the pic I'm using the fill colors but at the moment it don't use the fills so say no to fill colors. I'm working on the fills at the moment so it will play them automatically or when you hit the same chord.
You should be able to split your keyboard to play arranger chords/melody/keyswithches using JS MIDI Keyboard Splitter, with Xackley Zero Tricks. So insert a track under MIDI Chord Input track, drag the ROUTE from track 2 onto track 1 ROUTE, enable the keyboard input from track 1 to track 2, arm to record and record monitor ON. You can drag another ROUTE from Track 2 to a Virtual Instrument track that will play your melody/lead sending all channels or a particular channel that is set in the Keyboard splitter.
Here's an update if you hit the same chord again it should play a fill, see how it goes and I'll do the post fills so as you change from one section to another it will play a fill in current section then post fill in new section. When you get the chords "Biab Plugin Chord" choose yes to color fills. Right click Save Target/Link As ReaTrak midi chord input to region chord player.lua
Thanks for the great work developing and testing this guys. I'll be keen to give it a go when I get BIAB and when a tutorial setup video is available to follow along with.
I was just watching this video A battle between Band in a Box and Yamaha PSR SX900 With the Region Chord Player you can play all these Biab RealTracks/Drums with your keyboard with live real time chord changes rather than the yamaha midi styles.
Here's another script you can use with the Live Chord Input tool. This will let you have different regions (chords) on another track. You can then load the Biab Plugin on each track with a different style, key or tempo. You only need to solo the Master track in the Biab Plugin. To get the Chords from the Biab Plugin into Reaper's regions use "Biab Plugin Chords" button in ReaTrak to get the chords for current Plugin you to hit "Biab Plugin Chords" after you open the SGU or enter chords in the Plugin, save it then re-open it then "Biab Plugin Chords".
If you already have ReaTrak installed use "ReaTrak markers regions per track.lua" in Scripts\ReaTrak
If you don't have ReaTrak installed on Reaper use "Marker region tracks GUI.lua" if you only want the marker region script.
From here you will need to install Lokasenna GUI or via ReaPack and run Library/Set Lokasenna_GUI v2 library path.lua
You can Import region/marker.csv by View > Region/Marker Manager
add regions or markers manually or import
select the track you want the markers/regions added to then hit the "Insert Marker Track" or "Insert Region Track" select another track and do the same. If you insert a new track make sure it's not in a track folder like the Regions and Markers tracks, if so just drag out.
Hey there Pipeline and all, it's been awhile and hope you're all doing well :-)
I've been absent from these here forums for the longest time, and I know Pipeline has been putting all sorts of awesome stuff out there in the interim which I have not been keeping up with unfortunately because life's been very busy!
So basically, I've been thinking of trying to make some EDM style RTs and RDs, and wanted to follow up on this thread to see if what I want to accomplish can still be done, (or done better/quicker/more efficiently) with BiaB 2022 (with or without the VST plugin).
Basically, I want to "print" the UT template(s) into Reaper such that the notes appear in the Reaper regions, and with the MIDI notes for each chord, (perfectly quantized to start and end time with no velocity information or the like) on a track immediately below, so I can use those MIDI notes as "blocks" to arpeggiate and sequence in VSTIs to ultimately record into audio tracks...
I apologize for reviving this old thread, lol, but it delivered the exact results I'm looking for now back then, and other then wondering if I could do it in a better or quicker way now, I'm also concerned about compatibility issues what with it being Reaper 6 now and also w/ BiaB.
Thanks in advance!
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