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How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? #560910 10/26/19 09:42 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567 J JohnJohnJohn OP Veteran
OP JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567	So I open two instances of BIAB Then I highlight all the bars I wish to copy in the first BIAB instance and select Edit/Copy Then I switch to my second BIAB instance and select Edit/Paste And...nothing! I'm sure there is some BIAB secret handshake I don't know about. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #560912 10/26/19 09:54 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda	J3x, you must of missed the memo. That ain't doable and has been in the wish list over the years. Of course there are work arounds... Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #560920 10/26/19 10:57 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567 J JohnJohnJohn OP Veteran
OP JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567	Dan, I'm not even surprised! Sheesh! I would ask the obvious follow up questions like "Why in the world does it not do something so basic as Copy/Paste?" and "If the feature does not work why isn't Copy/Paste grayed out?" but the answers would likely not grant me any level of satisfaction. Maybe this will be one of 2020's "49 New Features"!

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #560929 10/26/19 11:43 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda	You know the drill. Go to the wish list and make a wish. Actually looks like you did over 3 1/2 years ago with this very same wish. Give it a big +1 for old time sake. https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=348016&Searchpage=4&Main=50672&Words=paste&Search=true#Post348016 Like you said, still time for 2020 new features list. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #560940 10/26/19 12:37 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 25,861 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	There is a recent thread where Pipeline gave a workaround. I’ll try to find it. BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars?

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It took me a while to find it, as it was a response to a wishlist post
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=560203

If it's just chords you need to copy you can do it the word processor way:

The first instance of BB
File > Save Special > Save Song ABC Notation File..
select one instrument
check ONLY Include Chords
Copy to clipboard

paste in Notepad

The second instance of BB
do the same

paste in the bottom of Notepad as below

now you can make it into one new song with a bit of cut n paste
save it as new song.abc
File> Open Special > Open ABC Notation Music File..

Code:

X:1
T:Untitled Song
L:1/8
K:C  
Q:1/4=120
R:Medium Country Boogie w/ Pedal S
M:4/4
| "D" | "G" "A" | "D" | "G" "A" "D"|
| | "G" "A" | "D" | "G" "A"|
| "D" | "Em" | "D" | "G" "A"|
| "D" | "C" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" "C" | "D" "A" | "D" "C" | "D"|
| "Bm" "A" | "G" | "Em" | "A"|
| "D" | "G" "A" | "D" | "G" "A" "D"|
| | "G" "A" | "D" | "G" "A"|
| "D" | "Em" | "D" | "G" "A"|
| "D" | "C" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" "C" | "D" "A" | "D" "C" | "D"|
| "Bm" "A" | "G" | "Em" | "A"|
| "D" z8 | z8 |


X:1
T:Guitar, 12-String Acoustic, Strumming Ev 120 demo
L:1/8
K:D  
Q:1/4=120
R:Medium Country Boogie w/ Pedal S
M:4/4
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "D"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" z2 | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "D" z2  z |
| "Bm" | "E" | "G" | "G" "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "D"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "D"|
| "Bm" | "E" | "G" | "G" "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "D"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "D" | "Gbm" | "G" | "A"|
| "Bm" | "Gbm" | "G" | "D"|
| "Bm" | "E" | "G" | "G" z2 "A"|
| "D" z8 | z8 |

Also Import > Import MGU/SGU Song to insert/overwrite x chords at x bars:

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Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #562954 11/07/19 08:30 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567 J JohnJohnJohn OP Veteran
OP JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567	Thanks Pipeline but it doesn't work for me! The "File > Save Special > Save Song ABC Notation File.." works. Then the paste into a Notepad file and saving as .abc files works. But when I then try to open that file in BIAB one song brings in completely wrong chords while the second song causes BIAB to crash. (Honestly, I would have been more surprised had it worked.)

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #562980 11/07/19 10:23 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954 P Pipeline Veteran
Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	That should work perfect, BUT Biab is not importing correctly the ABC it exports. So there is a bug in the current version. Did you try the other way File > Import > Import MGU SGU song. Full Screen Biab Track Injector for Reaper Free Biab Chord Picker Tool

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #562996 11/07/19 11:40 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda DrDan Veteran
DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda	Here is a workaround for you. When you have the first set of chords on the screen in front of you, get a piece of paper and a pencil and write then down. Then close that file and open a new file. With the piece of paper in hand look for the chord in each bar, then enter the chord by typing on the key board into the same bar number of the new song. This works fine here, I just tried it. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? DrDan #563003 11/07/19 12:13 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 18,353 Melbourne, Australia	Wow Dan, a new BiaB feature we didn't know about! I searched for it in Help and couldn't find it. Thanks for sharing BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #563024 11/07/19 01:43 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Charlie Fogle Veteran C Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,095 South Carolina	Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn So I open two instances of BIAB Then I highlight all the bars I wish to copy in the first BIAB instance and select Edit/Copy Then I switch to my second BIAB instance and select Edit/Paste And...nothing! I'm sure there is some BIAB secret handshake I don't know about. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Here's how I choose to copy chord charts between two different BIAB projects: Select an all midi style and complete the chord chart in BIAB project one. Give Project One a Name and Save As (F6) a Midi File to a known location. Close project one by selecting the NEW button and answer NO to save the project. Open (F7) the midi project you just saved. This will open the midi song and automatically analyze the chords and populate the Chord Chart with the chords from Project One. Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 11/07/19 01:44 PM. BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? DrDan #563029 11/07/19 01:48 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567 J JohnJohnJohn OP Veteran
OP JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent Here is a workaround for you. When you have the first set of chords on the screen in front of you, get a piece of paper and a pencil and write then down. Then close that file and open a new file. With the piece of paper in hand look for the chord in each bar, then enter the chord by typing on the key board into the same bar number of the new song. This works fine here, I just tried it. Ha! Dan, you should help write the "49 New Features" list!

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? Charlie Fogle #563030 11/07/19 01:52 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567 J JohnJohnJohn OP Veteran
OP JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567	Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn So I open two instances of BIAB Then I highlight all the bars I wish to copy in the first BIAB instance and select Edit/Copy Then I switch to my second BIAB instance and select Edit/Paste And...nothing! I'm sure there is some BIAB secret handshake I don't know about. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Here's how I choose to copy chord charts between two different BIAB projects: Select an all midi style and complete the chord chart in BIAB project one. Give Project One a Name and Save As (F6) a Midi File to a known location. Close project one by selecting the NEW button and answer NO to save the project. Open (F7) the midi project you just saved. This will open the midi song and automatically analyze the chords and populate the Chord Chart with the chords from Project One. Thanks but I cannot imagine me ever doing this. First, I'm not using MIDI in BIAB. Second, every time I have let BIAB analyze chords I end up spending more time fixing its mistakes than just typing them manually. I think Dan may have found the best work-around!

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #563034 11/07/19 02:20 PM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda	Glad to see my sense of humor is not wasted here in forum. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #563094 11/08/19 12:05 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 5,255 MartinB Veteran
MartinB Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 5,255	A viable workaround for the time being may be the BiaB 'Medley Maker'. This feature allows concatenating songs, thus effectively importing chords from one song on the disk into some opened BiaB instance. Within this instance chords may then be copied, shifted and whatnot to achieve what was originally intended. Martin

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #563111 11/08/19 02:53 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,095 South Carolina C Charlie Fogle Veteran
Charlie Fogle Veteran C Joined: Apr 2013 Posts: 8,095 South Carolina	Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn So I open two instances of BIAB Then I highlight all the bars I wish to copy in the first BIAB instance and select Edit/Copy Then I switch to my second BIAB instance and select Edit/Paste And...nothing! I'm sure there is some BIAB secret handshake I don't know about. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Here's how I choose to copy chord charts between two different BIAB projects: Select an all midi style and complete the chord chart in BIAB project one. Give Project One a Name and Save As (F6) a Midi File to a known location. Close project one by selecting the NEW button and answer NO to save the project. Open (F7) the midi project you just saved. This will open the midi song and automatically analyze the chords and populate the Chord Chart with the chords from Project One. Thanks but I cannot imagine me ever doing this. First, I'm not using MIDI in BIAB. Second, every time I have let BIAB analyze chords I end up spending more time fixing its mistakes than just typing them manually. I think Dan may have found the best work-around! Yes, Dan has surely found a fool proof method but it can be a bit tedious. From our conversation, I'm not sure I clearly understood what you're trying to accomplish or if you understand my method. To recap my impression to what you want to do is end up with two BIAB Chord Sheets in different projects with the exact same chords placed in each measure. Correct? You wish to achieve this by copy from one Chord Chart to a second Chord Chart in another project. Correct? I may have confused you using the word 'midi'. No midi is used or harmed during this operation I have posted to copy/paste chord progressions between two BIAB projects. The midi format is used to complete the operation. That's it. Two files can be opened if your BIAB is setup to allow that. No midi notes ever have to be sounded out in either project. Neither project has to be opened or closed. This technique is used to quickly and simply copy the chords from one song to another. I was confused when you wrote ". . . every time I have let BIAB analyze chords I end up spending more time fixing its mistakes than just typing them manually." I do not encounter that issue when I use this method. I don't recall ever having to make a chord correction and I sometimes, no, often use this method multiple times a day. I thought maybe your chord charts are more complex than what I normally input so I decided to test the method. I did and the result over three experiments with Jazz demos loaded was flawless... I loaded three different complex (to me) Jazz demo songs composed of all RealTracks. For each test, I opened the Style picker and selected a similar feel, tempo Midi only style. If necessary, I forced RealDrums to Midi so that I had an all midi style selected. (One style had two Supermidi Tracks but they worked as well in the test.) At this point I have the RealTracks Style Chord Chart but have selected an All Midi Style to replace the RealTracks style. I complete a SAVE Midi (F6) and this creates a midi file that I can open in another project using Open Midi (F7) I opened each of those saved midi BIAB files in new projects and in each opening, the Chords were completely and properly populated with the original chord chart. Opening the Style Picker and choosing an all RealStyle style resulted in the RealStyle playing that original Chord Chart. I am only using the midi format to copy and paste information between two projects and only using the Chord Chart information in my new project. I've posted a photo of two Chord Charts showing the results when using this method. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Both Chord Charts.JPG (146.4 KB, 52 downloads) BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #563186 11/08/19 09:43 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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OP JohnJohnJohn Veteran J Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,567	Thanks Charlie...I will try this when I get a minute!

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? JohnJohnJohn #563190 11/08/19 11:22 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda	Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn Thanks Charlie...I will try this when I get a minute! Let us know, this does sounds easier than my method. Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: How Do I Copy/Paste Bars? DrDan #563193 11/08/19 11:37 AM Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Pipeline Veteran P Joined: Feb 2015 Posts: 7,954	You can copy the chords you want from the source SGU, open the destination SGU and paste. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) BB-Copy-Chords.gif (202.96 KB, 29 downloads) Biab Track Injector for Reaper Free Biab Chord Picker Tool

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