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Hi, fellow songsmiths. I was just wondering if you have set patterns that you follow when writing lyrics. Do you let the song suggest the title or do you prefer to think of a title and let the song flow from that?

Seems there are many songs that are based on famous sayings - for instance:
A Stitch In Time
Actions Speak Louder Than Words
Between The Devil And The Deep Blue Sea


Then there are song titles that are a play on words, such as:
Cool Britannia
Katherine of Oregon
Ohm Sweet Ohm


There's no shortage of songs that pose tricky questions e.g.
What Becomes Of The Broken-hearted?
Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?
Do You Really Want To Hurt Me?


Or this title I just made up:
Can I Still Get To Gettysburg If I Don't Know The Address?

Any thoughts?

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Knowing we all have our personal approach:

Most to all of my songs come from a single idea/subject that grabbed me or a phrase that came to mind.
Some personal examples: "Just Do It"...."She Sizzles"..."I'm Going That Way Too"..."I've Had A Good Life"...."Dark Forest".
Just phrases I that came to mind that I thought would be worthy of fleshing out a good lyrical story into a song.

Once the idea/subject/title is in stone I won't deviate from that subject and try to make sure that each verse/pre-hook/chorus stays on topic.
I'm not one to write randomly with unrelated phrases or lyrics just because they sound cool that add nothing to the song's specific subject.

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Been giving this some thought recently. I know that a song title is generally not patented or copyrighted, although short phrases in advertising can be, I think Nike has "Do it" . But do song titles have to be original? After all it is just a string of words. How many unique combinations can actual exist?

When I hear a cleaver and creative lyric my fisrt thought is - "wish I would have written that" and my next thought is "...well there's one more thing I can never use".

So why would folks re-use popular song titles for their songs. If I were to write a song about past regrets or love lost or remorse - the last title I would chose would be "Yesterday". Is it just me?

If this is off topic - nevermind. It has just been something on my mind. crazy


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This is an interesting topic - sometimes, song titles just come really naturally. It is also safe to say there is a certain weight behind having an iconic and unique song names. For example: Stairway To Heaven, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Bohemian Rhapsody, I Am The Walrus. It helps cement your song as instantly distinct even before you hear it.


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Originally Posted By: Ghostgum

Or this title I just made up:
Can I Still Get To Gettysburg If I Don't Know The Address?

Any thoughts?

I like that cool title laugh...
When are you going to write & post the song whistle!


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent

So why would folks re-use popular song titles for their songs. If I were to write a song about past regrets or love lost or remorse - the last title I would chose would be "Yesterday". Is it just me?

If this is off topic - nevermind. It has just been something on my mind. crazy

Perhaps to get better placements on search engines?...
BTW...
Another title creation technique is take to an old title & add to it...
Old Title: Yesterday
New Title: Yesterday, When I Was Young (Writer Charles Aznavour)


New Title: Finding Yesterday (Written by Billy Arr & David Allds

Do a search & you will find more...
Or you could change the title from...
"Yesterday" to "Yes Today" crazy


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I've written from a title line and on others, the title popped out from it's usual hiding place in the lyrics


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