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#562500 - 11/04/19 04:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place.
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Referring to this post, sometimes BiaB will unexpectedly regenerate, causing an existing arrangement to be lost. Unexpectedly losing a wanted arrangement can be both frustrating and disappointing.

BiaB presumably must be able to determine in advance that a regeneration is going to take place when the Play button is pressed.

I would like to see a warning/confirmation to the user that pressing Play (not Generate and Play) is going to cause a regeneration.


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#562509 - 11/04/19 04:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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Yes, this is important that it works consistently.

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#562537 - 11/04/19 08:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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#562582 - 11/05/19 06:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 but also the ability to turn it off in prefs should one wish to.
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#562584 - 11/05/19 06:34 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: Noel96]
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+1

An option may be just a warning like this when regeneration is needed:

Can not play this song. Regeneration is needed so please press the regeneration icon.

IMHO keeping play and regeneration totally separate is desirable.
YMMV
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#562609 - 11/05/19 07:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1 of course from me. Lol!
Same message please when wanting it to replay from a certain bar as well.
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#562611 - 11/05/19 07:55 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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#562633 - 11/05/19 12:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1

I like Mario's method of handling the issue except for the "can not play this song" wording. I can easily visualize forum posts stating, "Every time I click on the play button I get an error message saying it can't play the song! Why?"

How about a pop up message stating "Song file changes are detected. Select the regenerate and play button to continue or select the play button again to discard the detected changes and play the song file."?
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#562690 - 11/05/19 06:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
+1

An option may be just a warning like this when regeneration is needed:

Can not play this song. Regeneration is needed so please press the regeneration icon.

IMHO keeping play and regeneration totally separate is desirable.
YMMV

Yes, that would be a good way to achieve the same outcome. The underlying concept is to stop inadvertently over-writing an arrangement. I agree also that the two buttons must remain separate.
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#562695 - 11/05/19 08:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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Part of me wants to know WHY a song will sometimes need regeneration when we don't think it should. The pragmatic rest of me doesn't care; just please give me a choice. And the suggestion by Musiclover to make this warning an option in preferences is good.
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#562699 - 11/05/19 08:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
... And the suggestion by Musiclover to make this warning an option in preferences is good.

Yes, I definitely agree also.
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#562700 - 11/05/19 09:04 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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#562746 - 11/06/19 06:22 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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Absolutely a +1 from me! Why this notice doesn't pop up makes no sense at all and has cost me time many, many times!

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#562755 - 11/06/19 07:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: Matt Finley]
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Matt, I've been experimenting with causes of the generation and cannot yet find anything concrete.

Surprisingly, I can take an existing song, completely change the style and generate it and then select File > New and I am not warned that the current song has changed, even though there are new instruments in the song. What?!!
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#562766 - 11/06/19 08:03 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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Inconsistent. Agreed, Trevor.
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#562776 - 11/06/19 09:47 AM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Then select File > New and I am not warned that the current song has changed, even though there are new instruments in the song. What?!!

I've seen that happen as well.

+1 for me on adding this option.
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#563676 - 11/11/19 10:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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I found another inconsistency in the on-screen Hints:

Specifically, the Generate and Play hint states that if you don't want to generate, press Play instead (figure 1).

But pressing Play will generate if (for reasons unknown to us) the program believes that a generation is necessary (figure 2).


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#564828 - 11/18/19 03:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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me too - +1

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#565005 - 11/19/19 02:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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+1!

I'm terrified of this at the moment, so the first thing I do is freeze all my tracks when I get an arrangement I vaguely like :')

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#565141 - 11/20/19 01:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box Wishlist] Re: Pressing PLAY should warn the user if a regenerate will take place. [Re: VideoTrack]
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I thought the freeze tracks option was the fix for protecting an arrangement. Freeze the tracks then play around all you want or create a second test copy of the song or whatever.

I see the points here but how many more little checkbox options or popups do we need?

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