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And why does the MultiRiff mixer change the instruments but not the track names nor the track settings like reverb, panning, etc.? That is pretty confusing! And if I want to hear them equally I need to change all of the mixer settings which means I'm screwed for mixer settings when I get back to my song!
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So, I just went and tried to answer my own question about generating MultiRiffs for a track in my style.
I selected bars 5-8 of the Piano track and generated MultiRiffs. I opened the Audio window and dragged one of the MultyiRiffs into it. Then I undid the MultiRiff so my tracks would reappear.
Now I found that only the Multiriff bars would play where they were placed and everything else had been erased there! I tried to undo and step back and BIAB crashed.
Guys, it sure looks half-baked right now!
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Just tried it again and it crashed again.
Also I noticed that even though I select bars 5-8 it seems not to line up properly with the rest of the song.
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Sorry to say, but I was not impessed with video. Maybe it is about time to open the mixer? And subtrack the re-generations to original track, soloing first as a default, so it does not create cacophony? And why 7 at once? I think "on demand" would be a more flexible choice. 
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I'm also hopeful that some changes are in store for the way this feature operates. I'm pretty sure there will be updates, so I'm going to wait a bit for now and see what happens a little down the track.
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I'm also hopeful that some changes are in store for the way this feature operates. I'm pretty sure there will be updates, so I'm going to wait a bit for now and see what happens a little down the track. Just tried several experiments and got it to work once but it mostly crashes. It needs a lot more work and testing to even work as planned. Unfortunately, "as planned" is not inline bar-by-bar like we had hoped for. So yeah, I'm done with this new feature for now as well.
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So yeah, I'm done with this new feature for now as well. Go try the BIAB VST v2.1.5 if you can find it. There is a link in one of the treads. It may make you feel better. 
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As a long-time BIAB user, and one who uses a dedicated DAW for editing & producing my finished product. I'm very happy with the new "multi riff" feature... for me, it's another very useful tool... Thanks again.
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I'm also hopeful that some changes are in store for the way this feature operates. I'm pretty sure there will be updates, so I'm going to wait a bit for now and see what happens a little down the track. Just tried several experiments and got it to work once but it mostly crashes. It needs a lot more work and testing to even work as planned. Unfortunately, "as planned" is not inline bar-by-bar like we had hoped for. So yeah, I'm done with this new feature for now as well.
It would have been far more useful if I could just select my bars and click regenerate to generate those bars only! >>Not to hijack this thread but only to tell you that what you're asking for in this case is accomplished in BIAB easier and with less complexity using the feature that multiple instruments can populate a single track. Up to 10 per channel. The feature will do everything you mention in the bold print quote above. It can accomplish 6-7 generations of a selected section the same as the new multi riff feature. This has been available for years and it has been enhanced this year because of the thickening feature so it's more useful than previously. If you are familiar with Punch in/out, Overdub and bouncing techniques you can regenerate a section of a track and preserve the remainder of that track and not lose specific riffs you've frozen. In other words, select bars to change, click regenerate and generate those bars only. These techniques of Punch in/out, Overdub and bouncing also allow reintegration of dozens of multi riffs back into BIAB. Because of the limited number of 8 tracks available for a single render and the fact that BIAB is not a DAW, the sacrifice to gain additional instruments (or multiple generations of a single instrument  , is at the expense of committing to bouncing sub mixes of tracks and instruments. I posted a request for PGM staff to create a video tutorial how to do this back on July 09 but nothing came of it.
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I'm also hopeful that some changes are in store for the way this feature operates. I'm pretty sure there will be updates, so I'm going to wait a bit for now and see what happens a little down the track. Just tried several experiments and got it to work once but it mostly crashes. It needs a lot more work and testing to even work as planned. Unfortunately, "as planned" is not inline bar-by-bar like we had hoped for. So yeah, I'm done with this new feature for now as well.
It would have been far more useful if I could just select my bars and click regenerate to generate those bars only! >>Not to hijack this thread but only to tell you that what you're asking for in this case is accomplished in BIAB easier and with less complexity using the feature that multiple instruments can populate a single track. Up to 10 per channel. The feature will do everything you mention in the bold print quote above. It can accomplish 6-7 generations of a selected section the same as the new multi riff feature. This has been available for years and it has been enhanced this year because of the thickening feature so it's more useful than previously. If you are familiar with Punch in/out, Overdub and bouncing techniques you can regenerate a section of a track and preserve the remainder of that track and not lose specific riffs you've frozen. In other words, select bars to change, click regenerate and generate those bars only. These techniques of Punch in/out, Overdub and bouncing also allow reintegration of dozens of multi riffs back into BIAB. Because of the limited number of 8 tracks available for a single render and the fact that BIAB is not a DAW, the sacrifice to gain additional instruments (or multiple generations of a single instrument , is at the expense of committing to bouncing sub mixes of tracks and instruments. I posted a request for PGM staff to create a video tutorial how to do this back on July 09 but nothing came of it. Charlie, Thank you for trying to show me how to do this but sounds way more complex than I am willing to try! Any time I do anything off the main highway with BIAB I end up frustrated with crashing and strange behaviors and usually cannot achieve what I am aiming for. What I wanted was simple enough for the average BIAB user to accomplish. A bar-by-bar regenerate feature that I believe could be programmed fairly easily because they already know how to generate a track! 1) I choose my bars and my track 2) I press the regen button 3) those bars are replaced and I can then listen or save or freeze or try again Super simple. No exploring BIAB's hidden multiple instruments on a track "feature". No dragging a WAV file into my audio channel and figuring out how to line it up with the rest of the song. No generating MultiRiffs that replace my tracks but retain my mixer settings. No having to remember to undo the MulktiRiff generation in order to get my song back. Ugg. What a mess! And I really sincerely appreciate your suggestions and those of folks like Pipeline but they are often just too complex when I can simply save my song, regenerate, save and repeat and then comp in the DAW. So yeah, I'm just gonna have to chalk this one up to another VST-year and just be super happy with all of the cool RealTracks.
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Dan, where did you find the VST update v2.1.5? Can't seem to find any mention of it in the Support sections.
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