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Long story short, I had problems with 2020UP as soon as I installed it and could not get any answers from PG tech support. In frustration, I contacted sales and told them I wanted to de-activate, cancel the license, request a refund and revert back to 2018UP. De-activated 2020UP successfully but now I'm in a quandary as to what to do to get back to 2018UP. I have all the installation files and license for 2018UP but must I delete 2020UP files before I can get back to normal. Or would I be better off deleting all versions, starting with 2014MP> If so, what about the update files for each?
Music is what feelings sound like.
Windows 11, Behringer UMC204HD Audio Interface, BIAB/RB 2022 Ultra Pak Plus
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On the same subject, why would PG release a new version of BIAB/RB at the height of the holiday season, then cut back on tech support knowing that there would be alot of questions and bugs to fix? They've already gone from Build 206 to 209. Does anyone from PG product support read these posts?
Music is what feelings sound like.
Windows 11, Behringer UMC204HD Audio Interface, BIAB/RB 2022 Ultra Pak Plus
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Hi John,
I'm not PG Music staff so I can only say what I would do in your circumstances.
Firstly if you still have BIAB version 2020 files on your computer, I imagine that these will need deleting because you have returned the product and, because of this, you will no longer have access to these files.
This is what I'd do in your situation. I am assuming that you installed BIAB onto your computer's internal hard drive.
1. Save any song files that you've created.
2. Make a backup of your current \bb folder and then delete the current installation of BIAB 2020. (If there's enough space, simply rename the \bb directory to \bb.2020 if you want to keep it for the moment.)
3. If the first purchase of BIAB was 2014, install this. Without knowing anything about how you upgraded (i.e. did you use the PlusPak option), I'll have to assume that full installations are required.
4. Now install each new version of BIAB that you purchased until you get back to 2018.
That should do the job.
Chances are that you probably won't need to re-activate the 2018 version. BIAB will let you know if you need to do this, though.
Hope this helps,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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John, I hear it’s pretty cold in Az these day. Anyway I feel your frustration, but 2020 is running solid here. I’m sorry your having problems I’ve been there. PGM always releases around the holidays. And the folks there have families like all of us. I’m not trying to a smart Alec (which begs a question, how did Alec get involved in this) but as frustrating as this stuff can be maybe a little more patience would get you through it. There’s a lot of folks here on the forums that could maybe help you out. Just bringin this up cause I hate to see folks going backwards.
Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
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hope you get it fixed.
i have somem issues with band in a box 2020 myself but one tip for anyone else who may have some issues and are tempted to get a refund. for me its mainly about the realtracks and such and the audiophile edition
what you CAN do is have two versions of band in a box at once. im not sure if you can install both on the same hard drive but what i have done is have band in the box ultrapack 2016 on my PC hard drive with all the real tracks
and then the 2020 audiphile of course from the external drive.
as im having some issues with running audio chord wizard and a few other things with the latest version but i can just do that in 2016 then save the project and load it up in 2020.
Just a tip for some people. that might help without needing a refund. as band in the box may not be perfect at times but gotta say am LOVING having the 16 bit full wave files of all the realtracks/realdrums
and apparently many of the artist performance solos too! have the wav file included which is nice to play aroudn with!
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Thanks to both of you who replied. I am also a big fan of BIAB but it seems their tech support has gone south. I did not give up easily but have thrown in the towel today after chasing them for an answer since 12/18. I am in the process of doing a clean install from 2014 on. Thanks again.
Music is what feelings sound like.
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Thanks to both of you who replied. I am also a big fan of BIAB but it seems their tech support has gone south. I did not give up easily but have thrown in the towel today after chasing them for an answer since 12/18. I am in the process of doing a clean install from 2014 on. Thanks again.
Music is what feelings sound like.
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MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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