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Using 2019 BIAB (Mac)....I'm UNABLE to delete repeats.

I go into the "Edit Repeats & Endings" preferences. I select 'Repeats" and the click "Delete All" and nothing happens. My repeats remain.

Help!


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Are any or all of the tracks frozen?


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I have no idea what a frozen rack is.
how can I tell if tracks are frozen???


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Originally Posted By: MrBean
I have no idea what a frozen rack is.
how can I tell if tracks are frozen???

In the mixer, the asterisk is colored blue, also there is an asterisk alongside the track names at the top of the form for frozen tracks.

Frozen tracks are essentially 'fixed' and are not adjusted by regenerating the song.

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Are you using repeats created with the repeats - ending dialog or the built in BIAB 3 repeat default?

In the dialog, you may have to "edit list" (bottom left corner of the first popup box) first.
If it's the BIAB default the change the 3 to 1 to the right of the style info


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Perhaps, as Dave mentioned you are confusing this with the number of choruses (essentially, the number of times the song plays through).

Change the number of choruses to 1 using this setting:

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You can use the UNFOLD command and never have to worry with repeats and other musical road signs ever again.


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Thanks! This was my issue. Spent the night trying to figure i5 out.

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Excellent! Thanks for letting us know that you resolved your issue smile Can help others in future also.


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What exactly is the "UNFOLD COMMAND"???


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This feature refers to "Chorus" only does it not???
If yes, so how does that solve any repeat problems related to verse repeats or bridge repeats, etc???


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Originally Posted By: MrBean
What exactly is the "UNFOLD COMMAND"???

Have a look at Edit > Song Form > Unfold.

It converts multiple repeating choruses to one sequential chorus. E.g. it converts 32 bars x 3 choruses to 96 bars by one chorus.

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This feature refers to "Chorus" only does it not???
If yes, so how does that solve any repeat problems related to verse repeats or bridge repeats, etc???

You need to understand BiaB's definition of a 'Chorus'

In BiaB, a chorus means "once through the entire form of the song."


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ok. Thanks for explaining what "Chorus" means in BIAB.

So then, my question still remains... is it possible to setup repeats for a verse or a bridge and then delete those repeats if not wanted???


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You can set the start and end point of a chorus with items 1 & 2

You can change the number of times a Chorus is repeated with item 3:

Just click on the item to change them.

Don't try to think the terms verse, bridge or chorus. Just set where you want the song to start (e.g. bar 5 if you have a 4-bar intro). Where the end of the chorus is (e.g. bar 24), How many times you want the chorus to repeat (e.g. 3).

Place a tag if required to a separate ending. Check the Help. It's all there.

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Originally Posted By: MrBean
ok. Thanks for explaining what "Chorus" means in BIAB.

So then, my question still remains... is it possible to setup repeats for a verse or a bridge and then delete those repeats if not wanted???


Greetings MrBean,

The Song Form Maker Dialog window allows you to define sections of a song (A, B, C etc.). You then arrange the song by typing the form you want (e.g. AABABAACA). You can revisit the dialog to change the form at any time.

Open the Song Form Maker Dialog window on the control bar "Song Form" button > "Song Form Dialog" sub menu selection.

+++ HERE +++ is a 3 minute video. You can also check page 136 of the 2020 BiaB manual.

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In addition all the fine advice above...

It sounds like you could have an audio file attached to your song file. This will automatically happen if you have saved your songfile as and audio file at some point in time.

To check this...

1. Load the song file.

2. Generate it.

3. Stop playback.

4. Go to "Audio" on the very top menu.

5. Select "Edit Audio | Kill entire audio".

Does this help?

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Are you trying to delete repeats 'on the fly'? for instance, today I want 3 verses but no bridge, tomorrow I need 2 verses and 2 bridges, and then the following day just one verse.

That's probably not possible to do on the fly. I you know that's what you want, you can build it, play it, and then delete it.


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