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So, I remember Mac talking about his little brother Marshall fairly often on the forums. I found Marshall's website (he is still playing sax professionally) and it had a "contact me" form. So, I wrote the following: Greetings! My name is John Ford and you don't know me from Adam. I am a longtime participant in the PGMusic Band-in-a-Box online forum for which your brother Clark (who went by the moniker "Mac") many years ago, your brother Clark just kind of disappeared. There have been folks (including myself) worried about him for many years now. I've tried calling the number at which I previously spoke with him, but it just rings (###-###-####). I remember him posting about his brother Marshall and your accomplishments, so I am reaching out on your web site. While I never met him in person, I spoke with him on the phone several times and we had multiple interchanges about music on the forum and on the phone. Myself, and others, would just like to know he's alright, still playing keyboards and trumpet (hopefully), and doing what he loves. He was a treasure of knowledge on the forum, and we have long been concerned about him. I remember he went through a bout of some health issues. I look forward to hearing from you. I received the following reply (lightly edited to respect privacy): Hi John,
Thanks for reaching out, I remember well his work at BIAB and I still use the program to practice although I have not updated in some time! Music is a challenging career. To say the least and has gotten even worse.
Yes Actually, he did go through some very serious health issues, maybe we will tell you about them but he is still with us and his brilliant mind, may be getting older, is still brilliant.
Since he sometimes remains private I will forward your email onto him and I hope he reaches out to you.
Let me know how it goes.
Thanks for your kind note.
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Marshall McDonald
I hope I hear from him.
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That's really good to hear John.
Thanks for chasing Mac up. I often wonder about him. He's STILL the top poster with 38,502 posts even though he was last online in April 2014 (04/09/14).
And he's member #11 -- that means he was here right from the start! By comparison, my member number is 12,038 and I joined in 2008. By the way, Peter Gannon is #12!
There's no two ways about it, Mac is a legend's legend!
What a great way to start 2020,
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So glad to hear that Mac is still around. If he started posting again, what a welcome back he would get, and rightly so.
I was just thinking about other users, Finetuned who did biab third party styles as well, they simply disappeared off the forum as well, many years ago and no one heard any more from them either.
Even though its an internet forum it can be sad to see members disappear from it.
Come to think of it has anyone heard from 90Db (Bob) in a while or even Seeker (Frank) who did a lot of user tracks?
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John, Mac was very influential in my journey. I “met” him at the old N-trackstudio forum, as well as the audiominds forum he was the one who convinced me to use BiaB and also a program called Multitrackstudios. I had many questions and he answered them with patience and kindness. He truly was a gem around here I wish he was still with us. I am sure he had his reasons for fading away, I certainly did as well for about 2 1/2 years. John if you get in contact please give him our greeting and best wishes. He would have known me as Robomusic.
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John if you get in contact please give him our greeting and best wishes. He would have known me as Robomusic. I certainly will, Rob!
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John, thanks for taking the initiative. It’s great to know Mac is still with us. He would be so welcomed back.
Noel, I noticed in your post that you said Mac was here from the beginning, based on his forum registration. The first part is true; the reason is not. In the summer of 2000, PG Music changed their forum software!
The number of posts and the actual date we had first registered was lost - we all lost years of material and started over in 2000. So Mac has even more posts that what you see in the user list. So do I, but I’m not in the same league. Yes, some of us must be older than dirt by this point.
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Thank you so much John. I've often wondered about Mac myself.
In the early days when he disappeared, he didn't answer my e-mails. He was beta-testing some of my new styles for BiaB at the time and not returning e-mails was unusual.
I read he was going through some health issues so I let it drop. The last thing someone facing a serious health challenge needed was something like, "Hey buddy, how is the evaluation of those styles coming?"
It's good to hear he is still alive, and I hope completely healed. If he responds, please send him a "Hello" from me.
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I'm also glad that Mac is still with us. For those who didn't know Mac, during the day he was what Noel is to us now, a man with tremendous knowledge about BiaB and music in general whom gladly shared this with the rest of us.
John, tell Mac I said hello.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
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If I hear from him, I will be sure to share everyone's well wishes.
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Me too John. The last contact I had was also shortly before he disappeared. I had an Emu 1820M PCi interface that died because I spilled coffee all over my computer. I PM him asking if he thought he could repair it I would just give it to him. He said yes so I put it in a box and mailed it out. He did reply he received it and thanked me and that's the last thing I've heard.
I've often wondered what he would have to say about all these discussions about making fairly radical changes to the program. He's the only one I know who could go toe to toe with some of the very technical folks who've joined the forum in the last few years. The big difference between him and most of us is he's brilliant and has a 30 year perspective with PGM. I often thought he had more to do with the company than he ever let on publicly.
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John & Bob,
I really miss that old phart Mac!
He had been a regular contributor to the N-Track Studio forums and, in fact, assisted us in its early development. He once suggested that we contact him through his brother but I have lost that email address.
Mac and a Cockney Londoner, "Limey" made that a fun place to hang out. Great memories.
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John,
I'm glad you found a way to get an update. Great piece of detective work sir.
Mac doesn't know me from a hole in the wall but he was still active in the forum when I returned to Band-in-a-Box. I greatly appreciated both his knowledge and style.
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My two cents worth: yes, I was always totally amazed with the tremendous knowledge that Mac had about BIAB (and actually so much else)!! It was so informative to read his threads/contributions and I have missed him tremendously....I was so thrilled to see you make this effort to reconnect with him, John, and I just hope, along with all of us that knew him, virtually at least, that you hear back from him and let us know if you do.
Thanks for your attempt,
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+ on the thanks train
In addition to all Mac’s musical and real life knowledge as a fellow Pittsburgher
I also enjoyed the times he mentioned his experiences in the burg
And like everyone else wish him Well in all areas of life
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I also miss his informative posts...
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John Great news and good sleuthing, when you reconnect with him tell him that his music forum and Air Force bro says best wishes and I really miss his presence here. Mac and I only talked off-forum a few times and then only via PM’s and on LAST one he told me how he loved chilies so I told him I’d some him some world famous Hatch (New Mexico) green chilies (he was already familiar with them). He also mentioned that his call sign in flight school was..., well let Mac explain directly (from his next to last PM to me back in Feb of ’14)
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Used to eat a lot more of 'em at one sitting than these days, though, a man's gotta know his limitations - or sit up all night in regret, it seems.
No rush, either, I've still got half of a large plastic bag fulla dried reds from the southwest here. Ever roast the dried peppers first, deveined and deseeded? I have a small spinning stainless steel blade grinder that was supposed to be for coffee, dedicated to grinding the peppers and dried garlic, etc. for my bulk spices.
BTW so you'll know whatcher dealin' with here, my callsign when back in flight school was, "Chowhound"...
'Twas an honestly earned title, sir.
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I did send him some chilies but then Mac disappeared from forum at almost exactly the same time he got the chilies, so I always feared I had somehow poisoned him (and that's not so LOL). -------------- Like Matt said this forum was reconstituted back about 20 years ago I completely forget why not even sure I ever knew. And as Matt mentioned even on that previous forum Mac was a very early member. I’m member 55 (I wish I was still 55) on THIS forum but had posts on previous forum as well along with Matt, Mac et al - only reason my member number is so low, lower than Matt’s is I beat Matt to the new registration somehow.
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I want to hear from him as well. Mac, rharv, silver tones and a few others got me started on PTPA (you newcomers may have to look that acronym up!).
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Wow, thanks for doing this John and bringing us up to speed. Great to know Mac is still on the grassy side. Even greater to hear he is still a brilliant man.
This post made my day, thanks again.
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+1 here for another fan of Mac - learned a lot from him and greatly indebted - as well as lots of the people on this thread : )
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John
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I did send him some chilies but then Mac disappeared from forum at almost exactly the same time he got the chilies, so I always feared I had somehow poisoned him (and that's not so LOL).
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So for once it wasn't my fault?
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Always enjoyed Mac's insights and input. Great to know he's still with us. Hopefully, we can hear from him again?
Thanks for tracking him down.
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Yep I'll take this hit 
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I miss Mac too. I could always count on him to call me every 2-3 months just to check on me and chew the fat.
We'd talk for an hour or two and then I wouldn't hear from him again until either I called him or he called me.
I stopped hearing from him about the same time everyone else did. He is a fountain of knowledge about anything you would bring up. Even if you brought up a project you were getting ready to work on around the house, he'd always have a few tips to do it better or make it easier.
I hope he's doing well. I'd love to see him rejoin our ranks.
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I miss him as well.We spoke on the phone a number of times.He was a brilliant man.
Thanks John for tracking him down.
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John if you do talk to him, he might be surprised I finally bought BIAB in 2020.
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John if you do talk to him, he might be surprised I finally bought BIAB in 2020. LOL!
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John if you do talk to him, he might be surprised I finally bought BIAB in 2020. I know I am.
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So now you can become a Jazzstar_not
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Congrats Scott.
Let us know how you get along.
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Unfortunately, I have not yet heard from Mac. But I have had several very nice email exchanges with his brother, Marshall. Marshall did say that Mac pretty much keeps to himself these days and confirmed that hee had passed along my contact information.
Hope springs eternal.
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Thanks for the update, John.
Let's keep hoping that we get a reply, and that he at least learns that there are so many people thinking after him.
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I wonder if Mac may have had a stroke, or dementia, or something else like that and doesn't want the world to know.
I hope that is not the case.
I've been gigging at 55+ communities since I was 39 so I guess that is why this occurs to me.
Anyway, I hope he's healthy and happy.
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Yes, it would be great to hear from Mac.
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So for once it wasn't my fault? You need to have been around here for a while just to understand that one! Yes, me too - pleased to know that Mac is still going and hopefully in good health. ROG.
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Hey Rharv!!! Moooooooooo!!!!
Glad Mac is still kickin' it!
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The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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