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Hi all, I found this on my old hard drive recently and tried to clean it up with Lurssen and this is the best I could do. It was written and recorded in 1996 and as I remember the equipment used was: A Tascam 8 track cassette recorder A Zoom multi effects guitar pedal, can't remember which. A digital vocalist processor of some sort. An AKG 190ES mic - I still have it.  BIAB was all midi then. I have no idea what style was used but I think I only ended up using the bass guitar and drum tracks The acoustic, played by co-writer Mick, was a Yamaha Electro Acoustic as I remember. The rest is my ol' Fender Strat. Having listened again I think it's worth an update. It's a little long. I'm guessing this was the album version. All comments welcome as usual. Bear in mind I know the recording is not top notch. https://soundcloud.com/martin_crombie/waiting-for-the-last-train
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That's a really good song but I'd suggest retracking/building from scratch would be the go.
The naked midi bass at the beginning really dates the recording.
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Good song!
I agree, it would be well worth spending some time on a remake, realtracks/realdrums would really make this shine.
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This is really beautiful and, despite the dated MIDI, etc., there is the unmistakable hand of a professional here, in my view - in the writing, the singing/playing AND in the production sides of this track. Loved it. I'm not an expert (to put it mildly!) in the production side of things, so I can't give a proper opinion there (apart from the above) - but, that aside, what a great, great, great job ... for me, especially on the writing side of things. It would not be at all out of place on the radio - well done.
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Nicely done - a really good usage of MIDI, and really shows it's flexibility. Nicely catchy with a good groove also. Thanks for sharing
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Nothing to lose by doing a rewrite.
Nice tune reminds of the seventies.
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Hi Martin, This is my kind of music! I love mid-tempo 8-beats It's a musicscape I find myself returning to time and time again in my own writing. This is definitely worth re-doing. It would be interesting to see where Realtracks and Realdrums take this. As I was listening, I could hear a bossanova style working for this. It's always good hearing things from yesteryear. It's makes me appreciate just what we have today and how incredible technology is. All the best, Noel
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Good song Martin...
I loved listening to it!
However...
Unless you just want to do an update...
I don't think I would change anything...
Its a recording showing where you were in 1996!
If you do an update...
It would be like Dylan rerecording Dylan...
Or Leadbelly rerecording Leadbelly...
I like their songs...
Rough edges & all...
Just my opinion.
Jim
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Wow, loved it, sounded like any number of hits from the mid 1960s. Those vocals are SO good! Guitar too. Yes, I'd love to hear what RealTracks could do for this. Great work!
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Great song! Definitely worth a remake.
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Noth'n wrong with dust'n off one from yesteryear.
It's got some good bones.
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The production quality doesn't matter at all to me when a good song shines through. This is very catchy, especially the chorus remained playing in my head after the first listening. The midi and real instruments give it nice nostalgic vibe. I surely would have liked this a lot during the 90's, kind of a soundtrack song. The solo works very well.
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Great find!
There's plenty there to illustrate all the goodness of the tune with
the cool vocal and guitar performances...and the write.
And assuredly it's worth the time and effort should you decide on
a redo.
Enjoyed it!
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Martin,
Excellent tune! I think it is a very good candidate to re-master using RT's/Rd's. Thank you for sharing!
Misha.
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The production quality doesn't matter at all to me when a good song shines through. This is very catchy, especially the chorus remained playing in my head after the first listening. The midi and real instruments give it nice nostalgic vibe. I surely would have liked this a lot during the 90's, kind of a soundtrack song. The solo works very well.
Janne Hi Janne, thanks for listening. Yeah I still like it. I thought it was fascination to see how I've moved on recording wise. Be interesting to see how it updates, both technically relevantly. Thanks again. Martin
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Good song!
I agree, it would be well worth spending some time on a remake, realtracks/realdrums would really make this shine. Thank you Dave. Yes I think it's worth an update! Thanks for listening. Martin
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This is really beautiful and, despite the dated MIDI, etc., there is the unmistakable hand of a professional here, in my view - in the writing, the singing/playing AND in the production sides of this track. Loved it. I'm not an expert (to put it mildly!) in the production side of things, so I can't give a proper opinion there (apart from the above) - but, that aside, what a great, great, great job ... for me, especially on the writing side of things. It would not be at all out of place on the radio - well done. Hi Musician17, And thank you so much for your kind comments. I'm glad you like it. Production wise, I'm no expert either, though many on this forum have helped me to improve greatly over the years. But I do have a lot more and better quality toys to play with now, which helps a lot. Thanks for the listen: Martin
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Nicely done - a really good usage of MIDI, and really shows it's flexibility. Nicely catchy with a good groove also. Thanks for sharing Hi Deryk and thanks for the listen and the kind word. Martin
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Nothing to lose by doing a rewrite.
Nice tune reminds of the seventies.
Rob4580 Hi Rob, thanks for listening. I think so too! Martin
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Hi Martin, This is my kind of music! I love mid-tempo 8-beats It's a musicscape I find myself returning to time and time again in my own writing. This is definitely worth re-doing. It would be interesting to see where Realtracks and Realdrums take this. As I was listening, I could hear a bossanova style working for this. It's always good hearing things from yesteryear. It's makes me appreciate just what we have today and how incredible technology is. All the best, Noel Hi Noel, Thanks for listening. I'm with you on this kind of music. And yes, it will be great to see what Realtracks can do with this. I've come a long way both in recording craft and technology. Here's to the future Take care. Martin
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