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#576187 01/15/20 03:05 AM
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Hi all,

Here's a song I originally posted back in 2011 and had some great responses. However, the consensus was that I used too much reverb - and I did in those days, and the mix was maybe a little flat.

I think I've learned a lot, especially from you guys here, so let me know what you think.

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Key=C , Tempo 70, Length (m:s)=4:17
4 bar intro, 67 bar chorus, from bar 5 to bar 71. Repeat x1 chorus

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I never listened to the original since I wasn't on the forums back then, but I thoroughly enjoyed this! Definitely wouldn't describe it as too heavy on the reverb so I'd say you succeeded. It flows really well and is nicely catchy too. I thought the mix was top notch also.

Thanks for sharing smile


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Hello ...

Good to "meet" you. I believe this is my first time to listen to ... been away from the forum for several months due to wife's very serious medical issues. Good to be back.

I enjoyed this very much. The mix is crisp and very pleasant to listen to. I also like the fact you let the drums drive the rhythm by putting them a little more up front than most folks do. Nice lyric and musical construction. Your vocal is very strong.

I enjoyed my listen very much. Wishing you the best ...

Alan


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Mr_Songman #576236 01/15/20 08:09 AM
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Martin,

That melody gets stuck in one's head by the end of the song (and especially after a couple of listens).

The overall mix is balanced. Good drums level.

A couple of notes - along the "let me know..." trail....
The vocal has some "harshness" to it because of the amount of reverb (it accentuates the high end). Rolling off some of the high EQ would soften that up.
The picked acoustic get pretty repetitive by the end of the song - due partially to its level in the mix (fairly loud for an acoustic) and because it never gets changed up for anything else. You might consider letting the strum guitar have a larger role. Just some ideas...

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Nice song,
To me, this has an old familiar feel/sound to it.
It's like and oldie from years ago that I listened to on my little AM radio.

Mr_Songman #576285 01/15/20 01:03 PM
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It'd be a good idea to edit that bit of noise at the very beginning.
As mentioned - there's some stridency to the vocal due to processing and EQing can ease that quickly enough.
The kick drum is a bit too clicky for the song style (it seems to be the BIAB default these days) and some careful EQ of the RealDrums can fix that.
Good song.


Cheers
rayc
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Mr_Songman #576314 01/15/20 03:06 PM
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Since you already got excellent mix advice, I can settle back and enjoy the song. wink

As others have said, it's got that "Catchy, have I heard this before?" sound, without actually sounding like something I've actually heard before.

And that is an impressive feat.

Glad you brought this back for another round! laugh


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I really like this song Martin.

I did a search for your 2011 version...
But I guess you've replaced it with this one.

Your plaintive vocal really makes the lyrics of this song shine...

Keep then coming...
I enjoy hearing your creativity!


Jim
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For some reason, my browser won't play off the website you use. Bummer! Take care. Greg

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Like it a lot, It is a catchy one. your voice is a neat compliment to the track and it comes across nice and balanced at my end.

Thanks


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Martin,
I especially enjoyed your vocal performance on this( sure the processing could be tweaked- but you sing well!).The melody suits the lyrics (please post them).
A good country hurting-but-not-showing-it song!

Robert

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Well performed indeed!

And the melody is assuredly one that sticks with you
(just another way of saying catchy, I suppose smile )

We joined in late 2011 and likely missed the original
so thanks for the revival!

Enjoyed it.

J&B

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Hi Martin,

This is really pleasant listening.

I listened using headphones. Your performance is top notch and your choice of groove and choice of instruments are a perfect fit for creating the ambience that these lyrics and melody need.

As I listened, nothing sprang out at me and said "this needs attention".

The sincerity and honesty in your vocals make for very engaging listening.

All the best,
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Hi Deryk,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for the kind words, glad you think the mix works.

Martin


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Al-David #582126 02/23/20 10:09 PM
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Hi Alan,

Good to meet you too. Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

I do hope your good lady is well now.

Thanks for the listen and the kind comments. You can tell I used to be a drummer huh? smile

All the best

Martin


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Hi Floyd,
Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for the listen. A memorable tune is always a good sign. smile

Thanks for the advice too. I did a remix and took some of the high end out and it does sound better. It also sits the acoustic back a little.

Thanks again.

Martin


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Hi Captain,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for the listen and the comments. I'm an oldie with an old feel too. smile

Martin


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Hi dcuny,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for the listen, glad you enjoyed it. It's one of my favs of my own songs. And I'll definitely settle for 'catchy'. smile

Thanks again

Martin


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Hi Jim,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for taking a listen and the kind compliments. I'm glad you liked it.

Now that I'm back I can hopefully 'keep them coming' as you said.

Thanks again

Martin


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Hi Greg,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

I have no idea why that should be. I've been posting my songs on Soundclick for about ten years and no one has ever mentioned a problem.

You're browser I guess.

Martin


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Hi beatmaster,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for the listen and the kind comments.

Martin.


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Hi Robert,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for listening and taking the time to comment. I have 'tweaked' as you say and I'm very happy you liked the vocal.

My lyrics are always posted on the song page for each song. Just scroll down and you'll find them.

Thanks again.

Martin


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Janice & Bud - Hi guys,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks for the listen and the kind words. I'll 'grab' catchy anytime. smile

Thanks again

Martin


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Hi Noel my friend,

Sorry my response is so late, I've been away.

Thanks, as always, for taking the time to listen to my efforts and the kind words.

And thanks especially for the 'vocal' comments. To me, vocal is king, and I always try to give everything to make it work with each song. It's why,sometimes, I miss the shortcomings in some of my mixes because I am so intent and focused on the vocal.

But that's why all you wonderful guys are so helpful. You have better ears than me.

Thanks again Noel

Martin


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Really good song, I also listened to Heartbreak at your Door, it was even better. Great stuff!


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Hi Ray,

Sorry, I missed your comments first time around.

"As mentioned - there's some stridency to the vocal due to processing and EQing can ease that quickly enough."

Hopefully I can fix this in future with my new Behringer, though to be quite honest, I don't really know what I'm doing.

As I don't use a DAW I have no way to EQ or process the vocal after it's laid down, so I have to get it right 'live'.

I love writing and performing my songs, I hate recording them so I pretty much get them done and out of the way as best I can.

All the best

Martin


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Martin, I didn't get to hear your original, but you nailed this one, man. The vocal sounds perfect, and I really like the song.


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Good feel to the song--a very listenable composition.

Your impassioned vocal really sells this!

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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Martin, I didn't get to hear your original, but you nailed this one, man. The vocal sounds perfect, and I really like the song.


Hi Babu,

Thanks for listening and taking the time to leave such great comments.

Glad you liked it. smile

Martin


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Originally Posted By: Ezekiel's Storm
Good feel to the song--a very listenable composition.

Your impassioned vocal really sells this!


Hi Ezekiel,

Thanks for the listen and the kind words. Pleased you liked the vocal. In my early recordings I always used to set the vocal back in the mix and drown it in reverb, because I was never happy about the way my voice sounded.

Thanks to the great people on here and there advice and comments, I have the confidence to get it up front.

Thanks again.

Martin


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