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Hello, forum friends After a little blank, this is my first post of this year. This song is written for the latest recording session of our music circle in this winter. I wrote this song based on the melody at the beginning of Beethoven's symphony "Pastorale". I would like to introduce you two versions with the same score, which are the live band version and the RealTrack version. Any comments encouraged. Always welcome. Best regards. Shigeki Adachi Title: 田園協奏曲 (Translation: Pastorale Concerto) Vocal: Natsuki Yoshikawa, our local female jazz vocalist Link of Live Band Version by Yamaha Teachers: https://soundcloud.com/animarorecords/pastorale-concerto-live-band-versionLink of RealTracks Version: https://soundcloud.com/animarorecords/pastorale-concertoStyle is _HEART.STY Heartfelt Gospel Ballad RealTracks in style: ~700:Bass, Electric, PopHalfNotesPush Ev 085 RealDrums in Style: PopRock8ths^04-a:Closed Hat, Sidestick, b:Closed Hat, Snare Style is ST_ELMO.STY(MIDI) Style MIDI Instrument is : Acoustic Piano (1) played with Steinberg The Grand 3 Following additional VST instruments played with EastWest Symphonic Orchestra used Solo Violin Ist Violins 2nd Violins Violas Cellos Bassoon Summary of lyrics: We used to go back home blowing the reed pipe I remember the smell of summer grass We used to hang around Somehow I always was chasing your back I look back your voice with nostalgia Lying down on the grass You used to whisper with my head on your knee We wished time to stop as it was I really wanted to feel the same feeling with you That summer was really shining It still remains without fading Did you forget the promise we swore at that time I am sure you can still remember it and will be in time I don’t remember which one said goodbye first I regret I could not chase you that day That summer was really shining It still remains without fading Did you forget the promise we swore at that time I am sure you can still remember it and will be in time
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Lovely.
The LIVE vocal seems a little dull - almost as if she's singing into a box.
It's the same in the BIAB version - so same vocal I assume.
the BIG sonic difference that hit me was the unnaturally clicky kick drum in BIAB...it's a common and annoying problem.
The kick drum in the "live" version has a satisfying thud.
Lovely work, lovely development of a superb melody.
Cheers
rayc
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Hi Shigeki,
It's nice to hear two performances of 田園協奏曲 !
I think I prefer the live-version slightly more. The string section works out better there.
I am glad you gave the English translation of the lyrics, because my Japanese isn't anymore what it should be...
But I would have guessed it was a love song by the melody.
To me the vocal sound nice and clear. But maybe adding a little reverb will give that beautiful voice some more body and air.
Hans
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Shigeki Adachi,
Both version are good. I preferred the RealTracks version because of how the vocal works in the mix. It seemed more "seated in the mix" than the live band version.
Very nice strings. A lovely melody. Beautiful vocal.
Good to see you back to the Showcase!
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Hi Shigeki Adachi
Your music is always inspirational, full and rich.
This is another well delivered composition.
I liked the way you created anticipation with the unexpected jumps to the Major 3rd.
Overall, a beautiful presentation.
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Wow - I personally thought this was fantastic. As Video Track said above me - the composition is rich and beautiful. I love how lush it all sounds, and the vocals work with the instrumentation perfectly. Really easy to follow, and a rock solid performance.
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
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Shigeki,
A lovely upbeat melody. Both versions are fine- my nod goes to the live track for the warmth of feeling in the strings.
Listening to Natsuki sing twice - a very good beginning to my day!
Robert
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That's a pretty well rounded production.
I think this could be even better if the vocal EQ was adjusted a bit.
The vocalist has a fantastic voice, I'd feel better if it was a little brighter and floating over the orchestra rather than muddled in the middle.
My recommendation would be cut the EQ a bit around 200 hz and in turn boost the EQ around 3 k and again at 10 -20 k to add a little air.
Nice song!
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I loved both versions of the song. Lovely vocal and the orchestra was beautiful to listen to. Well done
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Shigeki
Lovely production and a superb string arrangement (as expected).
Pretty melody and a really tasteful vocal.
Excellent.
Peter
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Hm, I never get tired of listening to your masterful pieces. This one no exception.
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Beautiful Shigeki... Both versions are equally satisfying to hear Almost like they are the same 
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Hi Shigeki,
What a lovely song! Very well composed and produced in both versions.
I think the live-version is just a tiny bit better because of the "orchestral" sounds, in which area BiaB has a slight disadvantage... however... I was listening to the Live version first and thought "this for sure has to be the best", but got surprised in how well BiaB actually were sounding on the second track. So they are close...
But most importantly... it is just a wonderful song that I would love to listen to many more times!
Great job!
Will
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I slightly preferred the BiaB version, but I don't have a compelling reason why. Great sound, either way. As Peter said, excellent string arrangement. But... that solo violin didn't work for me. It's got that smooth Joshua Bell sound, but it's just a bit too perfect for me - especially the vibrato. I wanted to hear a bit more bite of rosin on the strings to convince me I was listening to the real thing. That's only a small nit. I really enjoyed listening to both versions! 
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Rayc,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune.
Your tips for kick drums can be very helpful.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello Hans,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune.
And also thank you for your interest in the lyrics
Your tips for vocals can be very helpful.
I am very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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floyd,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune and Natsuki's vocal.
And I much appreciate the warm welcome.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Trevor,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune.
And also glad you like the anticipation to the major 3rd.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Deryk,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune and my orchestration.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Robert,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune and Natsuki's vocal.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello captain,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune and the vocalist.
Your tips for the vocal EQ can be very helpful.
I am very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Shigeki, your work is always excellent and once again you have shown us all arranging, performance and mixing that is second to none! Thanks, Torrey
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You have created a lovely piece of music.
Fabulous melody, arrangement, and production.
I prefer the RB version: The vocal comes through clearer to my middle-aged ears.
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Welcome back!
Both versions are lovely.
We always enjoy hearing your live / BiaB posts.
And as always it's difficult if not impossible to
choose one over another.
Both versions are lush, sophisticated and wonderfully room filling.
Great productions! Fine arrangement, strings and vocal.
J&B
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Wonderful treatment of a very strong and wide melody. Your singer handles those large intervals well. I'm not a mix-expert. I'll just say that both versions had their strengths. There are too many factors to say that "live" is always better. I don't think that's true at all. But in orchestral pieces played by talented and accomplished musicians, there is very likely a greater sense of "oneness" that goes beyond the math and structure of music when players are in the same room under the same baton. That likely is the case between these two versions.
Anyway, lovely song and arrangement.
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A lovely piece of composition, as was to be expected. Your use of strings and strings arrangements is just a step above anything I've heard around here.
Last edited by Icelander; 02/01/20 06:35 AM. Reason: Afterthought
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Scott,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune, the strings and Natsuki's vocal.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Peter,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune, the strings and Natsuki's vocal.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Mike,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Jim,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune.
Only piano, guitar, bass and drums were performed live. All other parts are the same sound source.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Will,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune.
Only piano, guitar, bass and drums were performed live. All other parts are the same sound source.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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David,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune and the strings arrangement.
Certainly finding a good VST sound source for solo violin is very important but very difficult.
I tried various instruments, but this time I settled on EastWest one.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Torrey,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune and the strings arrangement.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello Scott (Ezekiel's Storm ),
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune.
I am very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Janice & Bud,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune, the strings and Natsuki's vocal.
And I am very happy you always enjoy hearing my live / BiaB posts.
The music circle to which I belong holds a recording session twice a year to maintain our ability to write scores.
So, I think that I will be able to post my live / BiaB posts two or three times a year.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello Tangmo,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune and my arrangement.
I'm always grateful for Yamaha teachers to play my songs live.
They all are really good players.
I am very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Eddie,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to not only the both version but also many other songs of mine.
I am really glad you like this tune and the strings arrangement.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hi Shigeki Adachi,
I'm a little bit late in getting to this wonderful creation.
What a beautiful sound and a truly outstanding arrangement of a superb melody. At the moment I'm listening to the Yamaha teachers' version. Natsuki Yoshikawa's singing is superb. She has done your beautiful music justice.
Now I'm listening to the Realtracks versions. Wow... this is just as wonderful. I don't know which one I prefer, to be honest. I'd have to toss a coin to choose.
You are, honestly, an incredibly talented composer and arranger. I am always impressed with you music creations.
Thank you for brightening my day!
All the best,
Noel
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Dear Noel,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune and Natsuki's vocal.
The live version and the RealTracks version are very similar for the following reasons.
Only piano, guitar, bass and drums were performed live.
All other parts are the same sound source(MIDI) I programmed.
And I wrote the score of the live band parts by copying the sounds of RealTracks.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Sincerely,
Shigeki Adachi
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This is beautiful Shigeki Adachi, I really like both versions. The vocals in the real tracks sounds excellent to me. Strings are just perfect. Wonderful all round song, thank you for sharing
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Graham,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune, the strings and the vocals.
I am very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Wow - really big fan of this one Incredible catchy, and the production is smooth as butter. It all ties together beautifully, and makes for an engaging yet easy listen. You should be proud of this one - thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
Deryk
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Very engaging music. Listening to the live version, I thought, "No way I'll like the BiaB version better," but I was wrong. The BiaB version seems to have more punch in the mix. Or perhaps by then I already loved the tune so much, that it seemed better --more familiar. It's great how you used and developed Beethoven's piece.
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Wow, amazing what BIAB can do in talented hands! Singer is excellent and the source of inspiration is, of course, sublime. Would love to hear more.
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Welcome back! Beethoven as inspiration is definitely not a bad thing This sounds gorgeous in every way, like original classic in your own style. The chord progression is superb, the melody is nostalgic and the vocalist has very enjoyable smooth sound and vibrato in her voice. I like the RT version more, it has fuller sound and more balanced mix. Great work with the strings once more! Janne
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Deryk,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello Marty,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune.
I am a big fan of classical music.
So, sometimes I would like to make songs using the motifs of the works written by the great masters.
I am very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Hello TuneMonger,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune and the vocalist.
I am very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Janne,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
And many thanks for listening to the both version.
I am really glad you like this tune, the strings and the vocalist.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Beautifully done!! You are a master of melody Shigeki!! Take care. Greg
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Shigeki,
Great to see you back on the board . . . and you are back in a very big way!! What a wonderful melody and production . . . topped off with a very sweet and compelling vocal--wonderful, wonderful singer. Always look forward to hearing your work--always top notch and this is no exception.
Beautiful!
My best to you,
Deej
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Greg,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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Deej,
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen and comment.
I am really glad you like this tune and the vocalist.
I am always very encouraged by your kind words.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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