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I like the 8s 9s I use the 9s on the cavin ae185 and 8s on the lespaul to me its more of even sound thanks eric
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Well as comparatively new comer to the Strat I use super slinky 9s . and a very low action. 2.54 mm =.1inch = 3/32 sett up height need to keep it easy on the old fingers at the moment. Takes me all my time converting from the various measuring units you see quoted on the web. I don’t mind measuring in bananas as long as I know how big a banana is . Just makes it easier to get my fingers.around those chord shapes.
I think it also depends on the type of music you’re playing. I use Skinny Top Heavy Bottom I find using just Slinky loses a bit at the bottom playing country although sometimes that’s what I’m stuck with. But that is me. I find in general using an unwound G string causes a bit of a sound I don’t like so much (always seems a bit out of tune or balance or tonally lacking on my Tele) but what can you do. Back in the late 60s early 70s I used to be able to get and use a .17 (or was it .18) wound G string but have not seen them for years. I found the wound G really gave a much nicer (thicker) sound. I can recall using banjo strings to get lighter gauge E strings back in the olde days and that was fun getting the little knobby things to stay in place.
My thoughts or is it just age. Tony
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Tony, no it is not your age! It is the type of music you are playing and the tone that you want for said genre. I have Strat copies that I have strung with 9s or 10 flat wounds. My fake Tele and my MIDI guitar controller has 8s. My jazz box has 13 flat wounds. Each has a different sound.
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for me it isn't about the tone at all. My style of soloing requires a very low action and a very bendable string. 8s are obviously the easiest to stretch to the next note. However, a lighter gauge string will also sound out of tune unless your grip is very consistent when playing chords. A lot of people tune down to Eb or D, which increases the likelihood of bending the strings out of tune just through the pressure required to play chords.
My solution, when I have to transpose a song upward or downward but I don't want to play different chords or use a capo: The Digitech Whammy DT
Assuming you have adapted your grip to standard tuning on a given gauge of strings, the DT acts like a virtual capo that can instantly put you in a different key without changing the tension on your strings. It's also MIDI controllable, so if your setup uses embedded MIDI codes to change patches, effects etc on the fly, this pedal might be a good fit
Mario, I noticed that you use 8s on the midi guitar. Even though I prefer 8s on everything else, I recently put much heavier flat wound strings on my MIDI guitar because accidental string stretching causes MIDI glitches. So far the output has been cleaner with the heavier strings. Although, you have spent a lot more time with your MIDI guitar than I have, so I'm guessing you chose 8s for a reason.
Very interesting and informative - didn't have the time to watch it all now but have it bookmarked for later. I definitely know some players that'd appreciate this video. Thanks for sharing!
HI All While talking guitars , I am struggling to play this 4 note main rif from P Fs alla David Gilmore (Shine on you crazy diamond) As a chord shape you would not normally play this as a chord as its pretty discordant As it is Gm13 (omit 5) However played as separate notes as here it is that iconic rif The problem I am having is with the open G as this sits between my and my first finger for the 6th fret 2nd string and third finger that frets the 8th fret 4th string I seem to damp the G with one or the other finger nail length has to be absolute min to do this and still I fluff it some times. Which is rubbish as it must ring out. No prob keeping the 2nd and little fingers out of the way. Any tips chaps.
Mario, I noticed that you use 8s on the midi guitar. Even though I prefer 8s on everything else, I recently put much heavier flat wound strings on my MIDI guitar because accidental string stretching causes MIDI glitches. So far the output has been cleaner with the heavier strings. Although, you have spent a lot more time with your MIDI guitar than I have, so I'm guessing you chose 8s for a reason.
When I used heavy strings (12s) I had a long latency in the low E and A strings. With 8s I do not have that problem. I tried to use Nashville Tuning strings on it: https://www.ebay.com/itm/332452140333
The response was excellent but the low E thru G were one octave higher and that didn't work well with the synths, i.e. it sounded weird. I do have an acoustic and a 6 string banjo with high strung strings though.
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My Parkers were set up with whammy springs for 9-42 strings so that's what I use.
The neck is so nice that a light touch on the left hand is all that is needed, and that way I don't bend the strings unless I want to (and I often want to).
In all the instruments I play, I consider tone to be secondary to expression. We notice tone, the audience notices expression. After all Dr. John, Stevie Nicks, John Lennon, Blossom Dearie and so many other singers with less than great voices have zillions of fans and made more money than I'll see.
And what is good tone anyway? Hendrix? Dale? Gale? Slash? Remler? Page? Beck? Clapton? Hall? Kath? Metheny? Burrell? Ellis? McLaughlin? ________ (insert your favorite here).
Your expression comes from the notes you choose, your dynamics, your timing, your phrasing, and the ornaments you use (and when and how much you apply them). This can't be bought and if you are great on 8 strings, you'll probably be great on 10s.
So IMO there is no wrong gauge strings. Use what you like.
I also have 9's on acoustic and electric. A bit thin, but easier on my digits! I tried 12s on the Fender Strat and it's never been the same again! A jazz inspired phase. Maybe if I tuned to Eb or practiced 8 hours a day:-)
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I also have 9's on acoustic and electric. A bit thin on acoustic perhaps, but easier on my digits! I tried 12s on the Fender Strat and it's never been the same again! A jazz inspired phase. Maybe if I tuned to Eb or practiced 8 hours a day:-) I just this week put Ernie 9's on 2 acoustic guitars!
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I switch between 3 electric guitars. 1. Yamaha Super Strat style with narrow fret wire has 10 - 46 either Cobalt or Stainless Steel. Intended to be bright. 2. Schecter PT Custom Shop Tele with medium jumbo frets, Schecter Monster Tone humbuckers with coil splitting and free floating Double Locking Floyd Rose has 9 - 42 (pink package Super Slinky). Intended for rock and metal and feeble attempts at Joe Satriani stuff. 3. Les Paul Florentine (semi hollow body) with coil splitters has 11 - 48 Power Slinkys but I think I'm going to put some kind of flat wound strings on that one to see if I like it. I just got this one in November 2019 and I want to try using it in place of my acoustic for certain things. I know flat wounds are nothing like acoustic strings but a smooth sound and quiet finger noise played clean is what I want to experiment with.
Mike: regarding Shine on.... your fingering is correct. You must come straight in from above on the strings. I see too many people come in at an angle and they end up muting the adjacent strings. BTW that is not meant to be played as a chord per se' it's a riff and therefore you don't care how it sounds in that regard.
Strings..... Ernie Ball Super Slinky.... I arrived at this decision after many years of playing and trying various brands and sizes. Things that brought me to this decision were the playability of the strings as far as bending and ease of fretting. Durability. How long do they last before breaking? How well they maintain tune. Also factored in was the intonation and set up of the guitar to include string height for each different brand. Yep, I did a lot of experimenting to find the set that really worked well for me. The .009 high E to the .042 low E seem to be the perfect string for me. If I go thinner I have durablity issues and too much heavier and I have bendability issues. EBSS is that set that is just right.
And that's only on my electric guitars.
For Acoustic, it's .011 on the high E with the EBSS for acoustic guitar... down to .052 for the low E. The acoustic strings are much harder to bend but that isn't a requirement on the acoustic. Here, it's more about the TONE.... and the heavier strings on the acoustic yield a fatter, fuller, richer tone. They leave grooves in my finger tips but it's all in a days playing.
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Hi all Thank you for interest. Herb thanks for the tip your right of course about the upright fingers i'll just have to practise a bit harder. The strings were bought on your recommendation, you said I could thank you later so thanks . They are much more playable than what was on there, and lighter on the old fingers. Best regards Mike
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