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Hey PG fam !
This may be a weird or difficult question but i've been scratching my brain around this for hours..
Is there any way to use the "import chords from MIDI" feature without changing my entire project and removing every plugin and instrument chain I set up ?
I just want to interpret the chords from the MIDI file and nothing else. Lets say for example I have multiple VST's set with Piano, Bass and Rhodes in the Plugin section in the mixer and I have some chords already in the chart but now I want to try some different chords but keep the same instruments and play style. Is there a way to just interrupt the chords from a midi file but keep everything else the same ?
Basically I just want to grab the chords from a midi file and nothing else while keeping the same project settings, plugins and sounds.
I hope this makes sense haha I appreciate any help with this at all in advance
Thanks
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Hi Reskent,
Save your song with a new name so that you have the original to go back to, if required, and then test BIAB's ability to do that on the newly named song. You'll soon discover what's possible. This is how I approach 'finding out' what's the program can or cannot do.
I use this approach more generally, too. Every time I reach a point in a song that has taken me quite a bit of time to arrive at, I ALWAYS save it (first) and then save it with a new name. This means that, in the worst case scenario when I lose a chunk of work, I can always load in the previous version and get a head start on what I might have lost. I usually just name the different versions MySong 1.sgu", MySong 2.sgu", etc.
By the time I finish composing a song, I've usually got around 15 different versions that I've created along the way. Because BIAB files are small, the impact on my computer's storage is minimal.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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Thanks for the response Noel96 !
I actually do that as well haha glad to see i'm not the only one.
But yeah I've actually already tried doing what i'm asking. Which is why I wanted to see if it's even possible. It might not even be a feature since BIAB has to interrupt and guess the chords from a midi file. I wanted to know if it's possible to do that and keep the same plugins in the project without having to rebuild the chain again. For instance i'll load up Keyscape (Piano), Trilian (Bass) and Kontakt (Guitar) and have every instrument routed and working but everytime I import chords from a midi file it removes all of my plugins from the mixer and turns it back into default sounds.
I've been at this for hours because I feel like the solution is very simple but i'm stomped atm.
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Hey PG fam !
This may be a weird or difficult question but i've been scratching my brain around this for hours..
Is there any way to use the "import chords from MIDI" feature without changing my entire project and removing every plugin and instrument chain I set up ?
I just want to interpret the chords from the MIDI file and nothing else. Lets say for example I have multiple VST's set with Piano, Bass and Rhodes in the Plugin section in the mixer and I have some chords already in the chart but now I want to try some different chords but keep the same instruments and play style. Is there a way to just interrupt the chords from a midi file but keep everything else the same ?
Basically I just want to grab the chords from a midi file and nothing else while keeping the same project settings, plugins and sounds.
I hope this makes sense haha I appreciate any help with this at all in advance
Thanks Yes and No. You're asking two questions and they prompt different answers. 1. Is there any way to use the "import chords from MIDI" feature without changing my entire project and removing every plugin and instrument chain I set up ? No I'm not completely sure No is correct. I tested importing chords from a midi file for a few minutes and everything I tried reset the Mixer and Style to their default settings. More thorough testing may show there is a method to do so. I haven't found it. It may be true because there is another method that works when using audio. 2. Is there a way to just interrupt the chords from a midi file but keep everything else the same ? Yes The way to interpret the chords from a midi file without a reset to default setting is not difficult but is a work around. Convert the midi file to audio (Render) and import that audio into your project and analyze the midi file chords using the Audio Chord Wizard. This works because there are two different methods to bring audio into a BiAB song. If you 'open' an audio file, it reacts the same as the "import chords from MIDI" feature and resets the Chart and Mixer and all Mixer settings return to default settings. If you 'import' audio, BIAB recognizes it's working within an existing project and brings in the Audio file but does not reset the Chord Chart or Mixer. That's accomplished by the Audio Chord Wizard and most of your settings remain the same. The ACW will change the Chord Progression, Key Signature and tempo. Of course you want the Chord progression but even if you have to change the key and tempo, changing those parameters, you don't lose the Chords or Mixer settings.
Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 03/17/20 06:48 AM.
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Omg ! You are a angel ! Thank you.
Obviously that isn't the direct answer to my problem but it is a more than amazing workaround.
I really appreciate you taking the time Charlie.
Thank you !!!!!
Hopefully you'll be able to the same with midi in the near future.
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BIAB is originally a midi based software and it's been around for decades, I would not be surprised to find there's a method to import midi without losing all the mixer settings. I'm curious and will continue to experiment.
BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
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