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An update based on comments here & elsewhere.
I'm working through the info Mr G offered as well as DeaconBlues09's video.
I've put too much effort into this particular experiment so will aplly the new stuff, once learnt, to my next project.
Here is more vocal level, unison & harmony bvox in the chorus and some more tidying of esses, plosives etc.
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Very interesting - very unique, but it came out sounding really good. It flows really well - I personally preferred the version with louder vocals just a tad, though both make for a good listen.

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Cool song and sound!! Like the strings, and the mix in general! As others have said, vocal could be louder. Good stuff!! Take care. Greg

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I'm not sure what I was expecting (or which of the links I am commenting on). That's a very effective vocal. The backing is hypnotic without a hint of cheese. I've not delved too deeply into RT strings, so this is inspiring. I think there was enough glue in the acoustics to work well with them. I much enjoyed the listen.


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rayc,

Lovely song!
This song is completely different from your usual sound.
Very orthodox chord progression and straightforward melodies.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

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Very cool different sound. The vocal really grew on me as the song went along.


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Dear 'rayc', the 'Mixing Wizard' of the User's Forum laugh ...

Man! This is something decidely different coming from you, sir, to my ears, at least. I was excited by it.

First off, I think the title of your composition, Unnamed experiment with BIAB Strings, is WAY too much of a throw-away title for a musical work that contains so many diverse listening pleasures. It's...it's almost disrespectful of the vision of its creation that I believe must have inspired you to produce it.

This piece has a gloriously orchestral/pop sound texture that instantly reminded me of certain similarly composed, orchestrated and arranged 'hits' of the 70's, such as Richard Harris' unique and grandly produced song, MacArthur Park.

I said that because your work blended a semi-classical feel with an almost operatic kind of rock sound, which, by the way, was augmented by 'CeeBee's' wise & weary sounding vocal perfomance. Those 'la-la-la's' he sang were straight out of the 'sunshine pop' sound of The Mamas & The Papas, Spanky & The Gang, and other British and American rock groups of that memorable era whose names and songs I can't summon at the moment. I believe Belladonna's mention of Pink Floyd was an accurate comparision to your composition.

It was like listening to something 'out of time', 'rayc'. I did more than 'enjoy' it -- I feel that I re-lived it, because of its nostalgic feel and sound smile. Bravissimo, maestro !!!

Absolutely sincerely & truthfully,

LOREN

P.S. Please post the lyrics, won't you??? And, concerning the strings, I have been most pleased working with IK Multimedia's Miroslav Philharmonik strings, which offer individual, sectional and full string orchestral samples with an array of easy-to-use preset and individual sound-shaping controls and envelopes. If you're interested in how I applied them, you may want to give a listen to a previous post of mine, I Remember Wes.

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Bluage/Loren,
The reason it's unnamed is because it's a cover & they're not supposed to be posted - Leonard Cohen's Joan of Arc from Songs of Love & Hate.
Thanks for the kind comments and the reference to samples/synths.
Lyrics...
Now the flames they followed Joan of Arc
As she came riding through the dark
No moon to keep her Armour bright
No man to get her through this very smoky night

She said, "I'm tired of the war
I want the kind of work I had before
A wedding dress or something white
To wear upon my swollen appetite"

Well, I'm glad to hear you talk this way
I've watched you riding every day
There’s something in me yearns to win
Such a cold and lonesome heroine

“Who are you" she sternly spoke
To the one beneath the smoke
"Why I'm fire," he replied
"I love your solitude, I love your pride"

"Then fire, make your body cold
I'm gonna give you mine to hold"
Saying this she climbed inside
To be his one, to be his only bride

It was deep into his fiery heart
He took the dust of a Joan of Arc
And high above the wedding guests
He hung the ashes of her wedding dress

It was deep into his fiery heart
That he took the dust of Joan of Arc
Then she clearly understood
If he was fire, then she must be wood

I saw her wince, I heard her cry
I saw the glory in her eye
Myself I long for love and light
But must it come so cruel, and oh so bright?

Here's the original...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPf5Ki9ygVY

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I thought I commented on this already. It all sounds good to me. I don't know the original (I'll have to go listen), but this is good.


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This is impressive. I'd say it's a very successful experiment. The Unknown BIAB Experiment version is great - I like the vocals better in that one. Your use of the strings (even before PG's suggestions) is excellent, and something that I aspire to in my own work. The vocals by CeeBee (I'm a fan!) are excellent and perfectly suited to the song. This song hits me as one that could be playing at the end of a movie as the credits roll by - I can see the main character driving away in his car, window rolled down, the taste of freedom and the open road in front of him, but tinged with sadness at what could have been. Forgive me if I'm rambling but I blame it on the song! smile


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