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New study just released. The death rate is lower.

Coronavirus death rate lower than previously reported

It just made logical sense to me and I think further studies will lower it even more. Lots of variation by age groups though.

And an update to yesterdays story in California:

Social Distancing seems to slow the virus in CA

Sure, it's still too soon to uncork the champagne but again, in looking at the West Coast numbers it just doesn't make sense we're going to have the same ratios as NY. NY really needs all the help they can get so I hope if this holds some of our supplies and health care people can go there. It's too soon for that now but maybe that can happen.

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That's great news, Bob.

Our political leaders have also just recently said that the current signs in Australia are that all the precautions we are taking are starting to pay off.

I read about New York daily. The suffering is enormous. I sincerely hope that they 'turn the corner' sooner rather than later.


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"OVER 120,000 SIGN PETITION CALLING FOR END TO LIVE COVERAGE OF TRUMP'S CORONAVIRUS BRIEFINGS"

https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-100000-sign-petition-calling-end-live-coverage-trumps-coronavirus-briefings-1495195


The best thing Trump could do for the country is get out of the way of the experts and allow them to speak without fear of retribution. It would also save a lot of time if Fauci didn't have to correct all of the lies and mis-statements the president says.

Getting Trump out of the briefings would also free up a lot of time by eliminating the backslapping and self congratulatory statements he makes about what a great job he's doing.

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Bob, please knock off your political BS. Lets not start any wars here.


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Bob, I keep trying to back off the politics but you keep pushing it. You just won't give it a rest. Now I feel I have to respond to a comment you made earlier about how much better off we would be if Trump had taken all these measures back in January so why didn't he do that? I didn't respond to that, I just let it go but now you do this. Again.

To answer your question, two things. first like a whole lot of us, he read the statement from WHO on January 14 saying the Chinese health authorities said they found no evidence of human to human transmission. Great, sound like it's not a big deal. I suppose you don't remember that? It wasn't just Trump, many people gave a sigh of relief.

Then, there was a second reason that sort of took up some of his time.

He was getting impeached! The biggest political spectacle is 30 flippin years!! Then the trial was in the Senate for 3 weeks. And exactly when was this? ALL of January into February. BY LAW, NO OTHER SENATE BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED DURING AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL Don't you think he was slightly preoccupied? All the House had to do when it became apparent this virus could be serious was drop the impeachment farce and focus on legislation that meant something like oh I don't know, beefing up our response to a pandemic?

The Dems knew full well there would be no conviction in the Senate. Zero chance of that yet they pressed on anyway wasting everybody's time just to score political points. To even propose that question about what happened in January is just ridiculous. And now you still can't let it go, it's like every two days or so you're compelled to trash Trump again. We all know how you feel about him, just stop it.

What I said two days ago still holds, we're friends but you don't make it easy to just sit here and ignore comments like this. I try to be a turn the other cheek guy but, damn.

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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Bob, please knock off your political BS. Lets not start any wars here.


Big +1 from me, and I’m sure many others that read these posts but don’t often comment.

This is NOT the place to discuss US politics. Take it to Facebook.

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I hate it when his daily briefings are timed so they pre-empt my local news. People deserve to be able to see their local news. I'd rather hear from the experts than him drone on. But I don't think a petition is gonna make a difference. The daily briefings are too good a political marketing tool to have a daily spotlight and bully pulpit when there's no longer a way to do live rallies.

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Audience and ratings are what drive what news gets covered. If there was better news then they would cover it? Truth is Trump is the news. No one is forcing CNN, MSNBC or any other of them to cover the daily briefings. They are doing it voluntarily. Does anyone wonder why? There is really not anything else for them to cover and make their money.

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Keyword in my post is "LOCAL" news. My husband has a degree and spent a lifetime in broadcasting both in radio and tv. It's more complicated than that.

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Originally Posted By: MarioD
Bob, please knock off your political BS. Lets not start any wars here.



Mario,

I'm honestly not trying to start any wars.

I start every day by combing through aggregate news sites like the Drudge Report, Yahoo News and Google news. That gives me a fairly broad spectrum of news stories.

Some of those stories get me worked up and I respond on the only forum I actually participate in about a topic I'm very concerned about.

I apologize for offending you or anyone else. I'll try to tamp it down about things that can be considered political, but to me they're not. I get upset with any politician regardless of party affiliation when I think they are abusing the public trust.

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Bob,

As usual, you make some good points but in the spirit of toning things down here I won't be debating them with you.

I think we both want the same thing for our country.

A return to normalcy with news stories about mundane things would be fantastic.

Take care.

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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Then, there was a second reason that sort of took up some of his time.

He was getting impeached!

He found time to do 5 political rallies in January and at least 4 golf trips in Jan/Feb! Weeks after his impeachment trial ended, Trump in a February 26 press briefing said that the number of coronavirus cases in the US would be "close to zero" in a "couple of days." Had he acted sooner many lives would have been saved. But he, and his cult, always just blame someone else for everything.

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John,

A great big plus one. Great points.

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Originally Posted By: bobcflatpicker
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I apologize for offending you or anyone else. I'll try to tamp it down about things that can be considered political, but to me they're not. I get upset with any politician regardless of party affiliation when I think they are abusing the public trust.


Thank you for that.

I added the bold part because I feel the same way. The problem that I have, and maybe yourself, is that I think most of the people in congress are abusing the public trust. That is why their ratings are below telemarketers.


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Where I live our LOCAL NEWS is on cable all day long, sort of continually runs, so anyone can watch it anytime or many times daily. I think it's that way in most areas which is good.

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He was getting impeached! The biggest political spectacle is 30 flippin years!! Then the trial was in the Senate for 3 weeks. And exactly when was this? ALL of January into February. BY LAW, NO OTHER SENATE BUSINESS CAN BE CONDUCTED DURING AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL Don't you think he was slightly preoccupied?

Most actions on the POTUS' part don't require Senate action.

For example, Trump's "travel ban" to China was enacted on December 31, during the time you said he couldn't take any action.

The House was holding hearings on the Coronavirus at the time. Here's Ron Klain at House subcommittee hearing on February 5th talking about the "ban":

“There’s no restriction on Americans going back and forth,” Klain said. “There are warnings. People should abide by those warnings. But today, 30 planes will land in Los Angeles that either originated in Beijing or came here on one-stops, 30 in San Francisco, 25 in New York City. Okay? So, unless we think that the color of the passport someone carries is a meaningful public health restriction, we have not placed a meaningful public health restriction.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/

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All the House had to do when it became apparent this virus could be serious was drop the impeachment farce and focus on legislation that meant something like oh I don't know, beefing up our response to a pandemic?

Congress and the public health community had been urgently asking Trump for weeks to submit a request for emergency funds.

He finally did so on March 24th, asking $1.25 billion in new funding, with flexibility to take additional $1 billion from existing funds like medical research, Head Start, Ebola vaccine funding and the like.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/24/trump-coronavirus-budget-request-117275


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Please don't bring the impeachment into the COVID thread.

He admitted he was guilty, the GOP admitted he was guilty and acquitted him anyway.

The US and S.Korea got their first case on the same day. S.Korea immediately went into action while Trump denied or minimized it for 6 weeks while the legislators dumped their stocks.

6 weeks translates to many additional deaths.

It seems Trump and "our" representatives put their personal interests ahead of the country's best interests.

And since Trump is the captain of the ship, he gets the blame for the 6 week delay.

BTW I'm a +50 year registered Independent, I have voted both sides of the aisle, I'm nobody's fan-boy, and I reserve the right to criticize both parties and whoever screws up. We screwed this one up and it's costing precious lives.


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I have voted both sides of the aisle, I'm nobody's fan-boy, and I reserve the right to criticize both parties and whoever screws up. We screwed this one up and it's costing precious lives.

Well said! I too have voted both sides in elections from dogcatcher to president. And I always criticize based on performance and not on politics! An honest person should be willing to admit their screw-ups!

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Now that we've saved the world from the politicians, I'll lighten things up by describing my day so far. I log into the office remotely to do taxes for clients. The last two days the internet has been very slow and it's a real pain to navigate the tax program. Not only do I get freezups I get kicked off as well so I have to log in again. I gave up trying to talk to a client on the phone and use the program to review everything with them. Probably half the country is sitting home bored or working like I am and it's choking the internet. I decided to take a break and try it again later. Sooo... I've been completely mopping my kitchen floor with soap, then rinsing in the sink and gradually pulling the soap off with fresh water. I live alone and the kitchen is larger than what I need so this is a real chore. More information than anybody needs but hey, that's my day.

Are we all going crazy yet? I also need to tune my piano and that's a real pain too. I'm not a pro tuner but I've had a few lessons and I can do a serviceable job but man, am I slooow.

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Bob,

I'm not going crazy just yet. I'm cooking stuffing and BBQ chicken wings.

They're starting to smell really good about now.

I'm glad things are going a little better for folks around L.A.

My new guitar should arrive tomorrow. Can't wait to get my hands on that one.

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