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I just got back from Walmart and it was a strange but unsurprising experience.

They had the entrance roped off with caution tape and a line formed with people 6 ft. apart heading into the store. They would only let people enter one at a time. You had to wait one minute so the person could get far enough ahead of you to keep the social distancing.

You were met inside by an employee with gloves on and he would give you a buggy. Each buggy was washed and disinfected after each use. I've got to say that was the cleanest buggy I've ever used at a grocery store.

They still didn't have any hand sanitizer, alcohol, disinfectant wipes or toilet paper. Even the items they did have were rationed. The meat section was about 20% of what it usually is.

Welcome to the new normal. The checkout lady asked how I was and I said "I'm socially distant, but that's nothing new." At least I gave her a little laugh.

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Here's a good easy to read short article on NPR about Covid 19. NO POLITICS. Just good info without all of the techno babble.


"5 Key Facts Not Explained In White House COVID-19 Projections"

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/01/824744490/5-key-facts-the-white-house-isnt-saying-about-their-covid-19-projections

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Haha, good one Bob. It's been the same for me too. I left LA 8 days ago and did pretty much the exact same things all you guys are describing. Lots of wipes, sanitizer, paper towels. No mask or gloves though. I haven't needed to go shopping again yet but I will in a few more days, maybe next Monday. I really think with all the precautions everybody is taking plus smaller crowds everywhere the chances of catching anything is really low but I certainly haven't been walking around assuming that. Oh no, I'm as paranoid as all of us here. None of us want to get this until there is good medicine available to handle it. If this subsides to no worse than a bad cold or flu, fine I can live with that. I agree with Notes, lung damage or even dying is certainly a concern so we need some good drugs that stops it from getting that far. I'm seeing more and more stories about research that sounds promising but it's not there yet. Once that happens we can start getting back to normal.

As a gigging musician though not full time, I fear the entire summer season is pretty much over. I have a recurring gig at the Catalina Yacht Club every 4th of July but that involves taking a very crowded boat to the island and then there are big cruise ships that anchor a few hundred yards out and hundreds if not thousands take water taxi's into Avalon. That gig has always included 2 or 3 smaller gigs around town and I'll make $600-700 for the week and stay with a friend. Last year I was there 5 days. Somehow I doubt that's going to happen this year.

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Originally Posted By: bobflatpicker
The checkout lady asked how I was and I said "I'm socially distant, but that's nothing new."

Thanks for the laugh, Bob! I wish that I could think of witty things like this.

All the best,
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Here's a very interesting article I just found. It's about what I've been discussing with friends the "California Mystery". We get over 1 million visitors from China per year and it's been going for many years. There is still no huge spike in cases.

This is a fairly detailed article quoting many health professionals and the main point I get from it is the notion that COVID 19 was actually spreading starting last fall. He quotes Italian sources about that. This goes to the point that China has been lying to us all along not only about their true numbers of cases but when it actually started. No proof yet but very interesting none the less.

The California Herd

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I’m listening to today’s installment of the White House COVID 19 press conference and the Treasury Secretary said that the SBA loans will be loans that turn into grants. He specifically pointed out that the loans were also available to businesses that are sole proprietorships. I assume that includes musicians.


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FEMA ordered 100,000 body bags today.


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For those using Zoom
They said today, that they (Zoom) had fixed the Windows security vulnerability that was the biggest concern.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/04/unpatched-zoom-bug-lets-attackers-steal-windows-credentials-with-no-warning/

Getting Zoom Bombed may not be totally eliminated, but at least they are going to focus on security for a bit longer, according to the article.
That hole in the article was pretty major, but hopefully the report is true.

Having your meeting disrupted (even if it's embarrassing) is much less of a problem than a compromised computer.
If you have used Zoom in the last few days, may want to run a scan just to be sure you're clean.


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It looks like the CDC is reconsidering the advice to not wear masks in public:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52126183

The goal isn't to prevent the wearer from getting COVID-19. Rather, the goal is to help reduce transmission from asymptomatic carriers. Someone infected with the Coronavirus may not present symptoms for up to 14 days. During that time, they could be unknowingly infecting other people.

But there are a number of reasons for suggesting not wearing masks in public:

  • Prevent hoarding medical-grade masks needed by health professionals;
  • Not much medical evidence to show that it's effective;
  • May cause people to feel safe so they don't take other actions, like cleaning hands

But given how widespread the disease is, even methods that may have relatively small levels of effectiveness are worth reconsidering.


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My son lives in Sweden where they are taking a more reserved approach to the virus. People are still working and going out to gatherings of less than 50 people. They are not having large increases in the virus. Actually my son did get it and had a fever, fatigue and body aches. No lung issues, didn't go to the hospital or need a ventilator. I do understand that the elderly or people with underlying health issues might need hospitalization as with any bad flu.

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Keith,

I stumbled upon a site that showed thousands of fiberglass caskets and that was months ago. Does someone know something they're not telling?

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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton


....Yesterday I left my house for the first time in over a week. We went grocery shopping for perishables. It's like living in a Sci-Fi movie. The enemy is invisible and could be anywhere (cue theremin music).

People wearing masks, keeping their distance, wearing mostly blue or purple gloves, spraying shopping carts, looking at each other with suspicious eyes.....

Insights and incites by Notes


So true and the way you tell it is so descriptive. I heard somewhere that hospital workers are calling the virus "the beast".

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Originally Posted By: Don Gaynor
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Hi Josie,

Not too much information at all.

Your nurse practitioner sounds like they were just making unnecessary work for themselves. If it makes you feel any better, I'm like you. When I go out where people are, which is rare, I sanitise my hands every opportunity, keep the 6 feet or so distance between people and am very mindful of everything I touch.

When I get home, it's wash and change, also. I'm aiming to hang around on Earth a while yet so I'm doing all I can to keep covid-19 at bay.

I saw a woman yesterday who was wearing rubber gloves. I haven't gone that far yet because I don't have any open wounds on my hand. Fortunately the virus doesn't penetrate skin. If I had a cut on my hand, though, I'd definitely get out the latex gloves!

Where safety is concerned, it's much better to err on the side of caution, I think.

It's great to see you in the forums, again! It's not the same when you're not here.

Noel

It's great to see you in the forums, again! It's not the same when you're not here.

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You are dearly loved 'round these here parts, Josie. We need your logical mind during this unprecedented crisis.
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Virtual hugs to you Don. I don't know how logical but I'm hooked on dark chocolate m&m's. It seems the crisis has brought out an intense need for chocolate. Stay safe.

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Originally Posted By: Belladonna
My son lives in Sweden where they are taking a more reserved approach to the virus. People are still working and going out to gatherings of less than 50 people. They are not having large increases in the virus. Actually my son did get it and had a fever, fatigue and body aches. No lung issues, didn't go to the hospital or need a ventilator. I do understand that the elderly or people with underlying health issues might need hospitalization as with any bad flu.


Lucky he was able to get tested and you are blessed he got through it with no serious complications. That must be a great relief to you. Maybe his antibodies can help us all someday with a vaccine.

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This series of videos seems most appropriate in these times of coronavirus, 2019-nCoV.

On May 8 in 2007, 90-something year old cook and great grandmother, Clara, created a Youtube channel dedicated to teaching people recipes and meals from the Great Depression.

Learn how to make simple, yet delicious dishes while listening to stories from the Great Depression.



Clara passed away on Nov 29 in 2013 at 98 years old. Her legacy remains on Youtube.

Here's the link to all her videos...
https://www.youtube.com/user/DepressionCooking

The internet really is quite an amazing place!



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I lost 2 friends yesterday to the virus. Know 6 more that are sick.

Your mileage will vary with this virus. Don't underestimate it.

...Deb

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Dear Deb,

I offer my sincere condolences. I was saddened to read this. I sincerely hope that your two late friends are now resting peacefully and that your sick friends pull through.

My heartfelt sympathy,
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This is marvelous, Noel. I've watched Clara before and unfortunately forgotten about the skills she brought to more modern day living.

Wonderful people like her can give us great encouragement. There have been tough times before, and lessons in humility and resilience like she has delivered can help us all.

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The big story here (Ontario) is an outbreak in a nursing home just a little north of us.

It's a 65 bed facility, so far 17 have died due to the virus.

My mother, aged 93, is also in a home but so far it has remained virus free.

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Dave,

I hope the best for your mother and also for you.

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