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After our infrequent grocery trips, we wipe all packages with either dilute bleach water or alcohol before bring them in the house. We also take our clothes off and hang them on the line for over 24 hours (we have privacy in our back yard). In Florida we have sunshine with lots of UV to harm the virus. When they come in, they go straight into the washer. We even leave the mail outdoors 24 hours before bringing it in.
As far as suing the media is concerned. FOX is not news, it calls itself entertainment in it's business license. Since it poses at news, and if they intentionally misinformed people about the plague, they should be sued. BTW, according to politifact, FOX has an 8% full truth rating and MSNBC doesn't do much better with 9%. With Fox 60% ranges from mostly false to 'pants on fire' false. MSNBC is close with 42% ranging from mostly false to 'pants on fire' false. If you get your news from anything left or right of the 3 middle zones in the chart below, you are getting lied to more than told the truth. Instead of being informed, you are being misinformed. Be careful where you get your "news". Politifact is a Pulitzer Prize winning, non-profit fact checking website. It shows no favoritism to either side of the aisle. 
I'm a middle-of-the-road guy who leans a little right in fiscal issues and a little left in social issues. In the attached chart, I believe nothing to the left of the Atlantic or the right of the Hill. I don't call the sites to the left or right fake news, I call them either propaganda or fraud news. (BTW, CNN scores the highest in truth ratings). Now I'm not saying that those in the middle are 100% truthful, but the ones outside are more false than truth.
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I prefer The Media Bias Chart as it is updated more frequently and includes more media in its rankings. https://www.adfontesmedia.com/?v=402f03a963ba
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Wow, that is a really great chart JJJ thanks for posting it. The one you posted Notes is pretty good too but I think the other one is better. I never considered CNN to be hyper partisan left, I've felt it skews left but it's ok and the same with FOX. It certainly skews right but like CNN, not hyper. I just noticed something, this comment is based on me reading their online articles and I see when I click on CNN or FOX in the chart, the cable versions skew further than the online portals do. I really don't watch either one on cable I mostly read.
I've always had a measured take on all this. I'm not stupid and neither are any of us here. I can tell what's what and I still get good and useful info from many sources.
A very important point, I'm sure this chart is rating the actual news shows not their commentators like Chris Cuomo or Sean Hannity. Commentators can skew as far as they want but the news people not so much. Everybody is human, everybody has their biases and some control them better than others. I don't hold that against anybody from personal friends to the news. My observations over the years is all these people from far right to far left can still make good points that I want to hear and I'll figure it out myself.
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I still doubt the viability of masks unless it's a real medical one which none of us can get right now. I went shopping yesterday and yes, now 90% of people are wearing something but a good half are simple bandannas from a scarf of napkin. Pure and complete crap, does squat for anybody. Even now when you read or listen to doctors they're split as well. Some don't want to appear reactionary and will go with the flow but to me at least, I can tell they really don't believe it while others simply say, other than actual medical masks or the N95's which again nobody can get right now, forget it. As for Trump, who knows how he conducts himself behind the scenes? He may be very paranoid about this and is extremely careful but for news conferences he wants to appear normal. Well, normal is a relative term haha. I basically support him because of his actual policies but the man himself? Wow, just wow...
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I totally agree with you about the concept of misinforming the public like that but if Fox is going to get sued then CNN, MSNBC, etc, would be next. I have seen them and even our local news give misinformation about this virus. I just hope we all don't go sue happy as we have more important things to worry about right now. YMMV There's a difference between giving misinformation, and knowingly mounting a disinformation campaign. And there's mounting evidence that Fox media knowingly promoted a false narrative. For example, Fox downplayed the seriousness of the Coronavirus to viewers, saying that the outbreak was no worse than the common flu. But at the same time, network executives told its employees that it was instituting telecommuting, reducing studio bookings, canceling the audience of "The Greg Gutfeld Show" and "reducing the staff footprint at our headquarters" in response to the virus. https://www.salon.com/2020/03/25/murdoch-family-took-serious-precautions-against-coronavirus-as-fox-news-downplayed-risk-to-public/Fox promoted a narrative that those warning of the Coronavirus danger were "panic pushers", engaged in "mass hysteria", and that it was all an effort to try to bring down the president. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/mar/17/fox-news-coronavirus-outbreak-trumpSince that point, the tone at Fox has changed drastically. And certainly, not everyone at Fox media accepted that narrative. For example the above article quotes Carlson Tucker: Carlson, who in the past has demonized immigrants and described white supremacy as a hoax, criticized those making light of coronavirus more than a week ago, describing it as a “major event”.
“People you trust, people you probably voted for, have spent weeks minimizing what is clearly a very serious problem,” Carlson told viewers on 9 March, at the same time other Fox News hosts, and Trump, were doing that very thing.
“It’s just partisan politics, they say: ‘Calm down. In the end, this is just like the flu and people die from that every year. Coronavirus will pass, and when it does, we will feel foolish for worrying about it.’
“That’s their position. But they’re wrong.”At the end of the day, Fox media's culpability is a matter for the courts to decide.
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................. My observations over the years is all these people from far right to far left can still make good points that I want to hear and I'll figure it out myself.
Bob Exactly! If one gets their "news" from only one source they are not getting the entire picture. My view is that most involved with any 24 hour news stations are editorializing. They are not true reporters. I'm a centralist. On some things I am very conservative, others very liberal.
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............. I basically support him because of his actual policies but the man himself? Wow, just wow...
Bob Ditto!
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
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"Acting Navy secretary resigns over handling of virus-stricken aircraft carrier" "Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly resigned on Tuesday following an uproar over a profanity-laced address to the crew of the coronavirus-stricken aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark Esper announced." https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/07/thomas-modly-coronavirus-speech-resign-navy-172625Good. He should be ashamed of himself for the things he said about the Captain. Even though he apologized, conduct like that is unforgivable. The Captain has since tested positive for Covid 19.
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Yeah, what a mess that was. As an AF guy, you NEVER go outside the chain of command so the Captain was "somewhat" wrong I think but the crew sure didn't think so. This is an extraordinary situation, we've never been here before so yeah, I think that Captain should have been cut some slack, maybe a minor reprimand or something but to be publicly relieved of command and then to be insulted like that? No way. Yes, I'm well aware you NEVER reveal something about your command that tells an enemy your effectiveness could be compromised. But, we're not really at war in the sense of a real possibility of an attack on a supercarrier so just let it go. These are not normal times.
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I think the Captain knew he was risking his command but he felt the lives of his men and women were more important than his career.
Who wants to bet that his men and women get everything they need to protect themselves and their ship after this?
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Wow, that is a really great chart JJJ thanks for posting it. Yes, this is the best resource I have ever found! If you truly seek the truth you can click on their interactive version and see just how biased Fox evening commentators are compared to even MSNBC. Spoiler alert...Fox commentators are consistently more biased! On the other hand, Fox News has one of the very best news people in Chris Wallace. I watch him regularly even though he skews a little to the right. I find Wallace is generally honest and will critically attack any liars regardless of their political affiliation. ------------------ Below is from the Media Bias Interactive Chart ------------------ Bias scores for articles and shows are on a scale of -42 to + 42, with higher negative scores being more left, higher positive scores being more right, and scores closer to zero being the most neutral and/or balanced. Fox News-Tucker Carlson Tonight / Bias 31.00 / Quality 9.75 Fox News-Hannity / Bias 33.75 / Quality 14.25 Fox News-The Ingraham Angle / Bias 24.00 / Quality 25.75 Fox News-Justice with Judge Jeanine / Bias 34.50 / Quality 19.50 Fox News-Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace / Bias 5.00 / Quality 46.33 MSNBC-MTP Daily / Bias -16.33 / Quality 39.67 MSNBC-The Beat With Ari Melber / Bias -11.33 / Quality 31.33 MSNBC-The Rachel Maddow Show / Bias -14.33 / Quality 36.67 MSNBC-The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell / Bias -30.00 / Quality 31.67 MSNBC-The 11th Hour with Brian Williams / Bias -19.33 / Quality 41.67
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Wow, that is a really great chart JJJ thanks for posting it. Yes, this is the best resource I have ever found! If you truly seek the truth you can click on their interactive version and see just how biased Fox evening commentators are compared to even MSNBC. Spoiler alert...Fox commentators are consistently more biased! On the other hand, Fox News has one of the very best news people in Chris Wallace. I watch him regularly even though he skews a little to the right. I find Wallace is generally honest and will critically attack any liars regardless of their political affiliation. ------------------ Below is from the Media Bias Interactive Chart ------------------ Bias scores for articles and shows are on a scale of -42 to + 42, with higher negative scores being more left, higher positive scores being more right, and scores closer to zero being the most neutral and/or balanced. Fox News-Tucker Carlson Tonight / Bias 31.00 / Quality 9.75 Fox News-Hannity / Bias 33.75 / Quality 14.25 Fox News-The Ingraham Angle / Bias 24.00 / Quality 25.75 Fox News-Justice with Judge Jeanine / Bias 34.50 / Quality 19.50 Fox News-Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace / Bias 5.00 / Quality 46.33 MSNBC-MTP Daily / Bias -16.33 / Quality 39.67 MSNBC-The Beat With Ari Melber / Bias -11.33 / Quality 31.33 MSNBC-The Rachel Maddow Show / Bias -14.33 / Quality 36.67 MSNBC-The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell / Bias -30.00 / Quality 31.67 MSNBC-The 11th Hour with Brian Williams / Bias -19.33 / Quality 41.67 Two thumbs up for Chris Wallace. He actually tries to present unbiased reporting. Mike would be proud.
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Fox would have a chance of being an actual news network if they were to fire EVERYONE in their daytime and prime time line up and put Neil Cavuto in charge.
He's a very decent and intelligent guy.
Then ask Shep Smith to come back. That would be a good start.
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Fox would have a chance of being an actual news network if they were to fire EVERYONE in their daytime and prime time line up and put Neil Cavuto in charge.
He's a very decent and intelligent guy.
Then ask Shep Smith to come back. That would be a good start.
Agreed. The three I don't like at all are Carlson, Hannity and Ingraham. Mark Levin is also very good. Biased yes but he does know the constitution extremely well.
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Fox would have a chance of being an actual news network if they were to fire EVERYONE in their daytime and prime time line up and put Neil Cavuto in charge.
He's a very decent and intelligent guy.
Then ask Shep Smith to come back. That would be a good start.
Yeah but then they'd have to compete on equal footing with actual news networks. They will never do that because they found their market and it makes them a lot of money while dumbing down an awful lot of Americans.
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Shep's non-compete is ending in a few months so I imagine he'll be snapped up by CNN or MSNBC. You couldn't pay me to watch Trump Tv aka Fox News channel. Especially at night when all they do is scream and lie. Who knew the secret to ratings success was lying and screaming at the audience while just making it up as you go along - we could've all been Rush....sarcasm intended. I get more news off Saturday Night live. My opinion only - I realize there are those who like being lied to, screamed at and brainwashed with alternative facts. I don't care for it. So I've been working on sewing masks. We'll use the term sewing loosely as I'm going to admit that I cannot sew a perfectly straight seam. Fair to middlin' at best. Harder than I remembered. This may explain why the sewing machine has spent most of it's life in the closet.  The good news is I have managed to cobble together two masks each for my husband and myself for a total of four using a an old 100% cotton tightly woven shirt and a t-shirt for lining both dug out of the closest. Josie
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I found one new 3M Cool Flow N95 Pro 8511 respirator in my tool box. I tried to give it to my son but he wouldn't take it. So we agreed that whoever takes it should be the only one who goes out to the store.
My question is, how reusable is it? I know we can't share.
Your thoughts please. I started to send this to you in a message but I thought your answer might be helpful to others. Bob, I apologize for the tardy response but I overlooked this post somehow. The best answer I can give you is that under normal circumstances, and for their intended use they were not reusable at all. Under emergency situations I am afraid that your guess is as good as mine. Most people are of the opinion that anything is at least a little better than nothing. We received a shipment of 8;800 masks in Montgomery last week from the FEMA stockpile that indicates how dicey this mask situation is and how disingenuous some of the finger pointing is surrounding the earlier depletion of the stockpile during the N1H1 crisis. The entire shipment of masks was dry rotted. Every mask that 3M manufactures has a shelf life of 5 years. Every mask in the shipment had expiration dates that occurred back in the Bush Administration. If every mask taken out of the stockpile in 2009 had been replaced, those would be expired now as well.
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Mine is dated 10/2022 and its in good shape. Thanks for getting back to me.
I used it for the first time today.
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