It is a whole bunch more worthwhile than the hours you will spend in that other thread going around and around in circles.
Thanks for this, floyd. I've bookmarked it to have a watch a little later today.
Originally Posted By: floyd jane
This also might make you feel better.
I sincerely appreciate this thought. Having our outlooks lifted are what we all need right now -- well unless one thrives on pessimism and/or statistics.
I've purposely been looking around Youtube to find video clips that show just how resilient and how individual people can be. There are some incredible stories out there. These really help me rise above the cacophony of doom and gloom that swamps the media right now.
The one thing that I never want to lose sight of is that while groups of people can be thought of statistically, it's really an insult to every individual to think of him or her as a statistic. As I see it, thinking of an individual as a statistic also belittles the thinker.
Once again, thank you.
I hope that you are yours are travelling well. Noel
This is a summary, but obviously watching the video is better, since a summary isn't complete.
Summary: Transmission is from sustained contact with person with disease. For example, shaking hands with someone at party, and then touching your face afterwards.
Transmission is almost exclusively from droplets from an infected individual's mouth that's picked up by someone's hand, which is then touched to their face.
Exposure via airborne droplets can happen if you're too close to someone who's got the virus.
You can follow four precautions prevent yourself from catching COVID-19:
1. Always know where your hands are, and have Purell to clean them when you're outside your house. Avoid touching things outside your house with your hands. But when you do have to touch something, clean your hands as soon as possible afterwards. Just a drop of Purell will do, as the virus can easily be destroyed.
2. Don't touch your face. The simplest way to do this is to wear a face mask when you're in public. It's not protecting you from airborne droplets, it's protecting you from touching your face when your hands aren't clean. If you want to practice, wear it while you're at home.
3. The purpose of wearing a mask is to keep yourself from touching your face. You don't need a medical mask. Any mask will do. It's about preventing you from touching your face.
4. Distance yourself from 3 to 6 feet away people.
These are simple rules, but you need to follow them and not become lax. This is the "new normal" for the next 3 to 9 months.
For the vast majority of cases, the primary transmission path is via a family member.
How do you deal with a person in the household with a fever or COVID-19?
Follow the rules. Isolate that person from everyone else. If possible, that person should be in a separate room, and a separate bathroom. If the sick person needs to interact with people, they should wash their hands, and put on a mask (to prevent transmission). Anything that's been touched should be washed.
You can have someone in the house with COVID-19 and be safe - unless there are family members who are incredibly vulnerable. In that case, they need to be completely isolated from that individual.
There's only one symptom you need in order to determine if you need to go to the hospital: feeling short of breath. If you've only got a fever, stay home.
Of those who get COVID-19, 10% need to go to the hospital because of a lung infection. Of those, 1 to 3% need to get put on ventilators. The overwhelming number of people on ventilators get off after 7 days.
David, thank you so much for the summary and Floyd for posting.
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Kati Morton presents thoughts and strategies on dealing with anxiety that arises from corona virus. I suspect that some in the 'other' thread that floyd mentions might find value in this video.
I learnt a bit about how I'm wired by watching this. I found it a valuable use of 8 minutes of my time.
His passion was obviously heartfelt and no doubt he is a good caring man. His emphasis on hand washing in such varied circumstances was driven home really well and hopefully will influence folks, including their family and friends, to their betterment.
There is only one way to get Covid-19. I must inter through and opening directly into your body. Commonly through your mouth, your nose, your eyes. The most common method moving the virus from your hands to your face.
The offend expressed idea that a mask will not work is nonsense. If someone coughs or sneezes near you a mask will most like stop the liquid from interning your mouth, and nose it it is covered.The better the mask the better the results. It will not protect your eyes. That is what the face shield is for.
The most important take away is you do not have to get Covid-19 must less die from it. Take the proper action and you won't get this virus.
There are several industries which will suffer harshly from this situation. Now would be a good time to start looking for options for new employment.
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Take the proper actions and minimize your chances of getting it.
I find it impossible to completely isolate. Sooner or later I'll have to get groceries. The newspaper comes twice a week (I let it sit over 24 hours before reading). I do the same with the mail (although the junk mail goes straight to the bin).
I bring a bottle of diluted bleach to the store to sanitize before it gets into my car. I of course wash my hands after touching anything and before touching my face (this takes concentration).
I wear baggy clothes when going out, take them off before entering the house, and hang them on the clothesline.
I never wear shoes into the house, they sit by the door.
Since I'm economically isolated (out of work) staying in my house and half acre yard is not difficult.
Since Leilani and I get along famously, 24/7 is not a problem, in fact it's a joyful treat (42 years of wedded bliss and counting).
I keep the windows open because in the 1918 flu epidemic, the people who had the best outcome were either the patients in tents outdoors (because the hospitals were full) and the patients in rooms with cross ventilation.
Dry air inhibits the cilia in your respiratory mucus membranes from ejecting the virus and keeps any broken cilia from healing.
Also I eat a ketogenic diet. When people are in ketosis, the Gamma T cells in your mucus membranes are active, when your body runs on sugar instead of ketones, the Gamma T cells are not active.
I don't plan on getting this virus. Of course I can't be 100% sure but I can minimize the odds to near zero.
To all my BiaB Buddies, wherever you are, be careful and stay safe and healthy.
They are doing a pretty good job here at keeping the stores reasonably safe. They are limiting the amount of people that can enter at a time, and on the outside they have lines marked on the ground, some stores using shopping carts, so people waiting outside to get in know how close they can stand to the next person.
There is a person wiping down the handle of the shopping cart before you can take it.
At the cash register some stores have setup barriers so you can't get too close to the cashier. Other stores have put up plexiglass barriers between the cashier and the customer.
Using cash is discouraged, and some stores won't accept cash.
Last edited by BlueAttitude; 03/29/2004:12 AM. Reason: added "reasonably" to safe
The below list was just published in one of our newspapers. It's useful reading.
I'd suggest retracting this list. This has all the earmarks of a list cobbled together from different sources and attributed to a reputable source that it didn't actually originate from.
LISTERINE can work because it is 65% alcohol.
This is incorrect, and potentially dangerous to anyone who relies on it.
Only some Listerine mouthwash formulations contain alcohol, and if present is only around 20% alcohol. Listerine mouthwash is not intended to be used, nor would it be beneficial as a hand sanitizer or surface disinfectant.
HEAT melts fat; this is why it is so good to use water above 25 degrees Celsius for washing hands, clothes and everything. In addition, hot water makes more foam and that makes it even more useful.
This "heat melting fat" doesn't appear in anything I've read, but the "lather" bit is correct.
But for something supposedly written by and for Americans, it's unusual to see terms such as "Celcius" or "washroom", which would be more typical for British or Canadians.
The more confined the space, the higher the concentration of the virus can be. The more open or naturally ventilated, the less.
I've seen no reputable source offer this information.
You have to DRY HANDS after washing them because the virus molecules hide in humidity. You must also MOISTURIZE YOUR HANDS to help prevent new viruses from hiding in dry micro-cracks of your skin. The thicker your moisturizer, the better.
I've seen no reputable source suggest moisturizing your hands because of "micro-cracks" in your skin.
The Chinese found that drinking lots of hot water, gargling with lemon, breaks-up mucous where the virus can lodge.
This is a rehash of a slightly different claim, but there's no support for it in the new form, either.
I didn't verify the information before posting. That was my mistake. I should have done. I've taken your advice and deleted the post. I definitely do not want to be adding to the ocean of misinformation that's circling around at the moment.
I appreciate your picking this up and letting me know.
I hope that all your family are getting through these extraordinary times OK.
We're all doing our absolute best in these very tough times, and I suspect everyone of us, professionals and consumers alike, are doing our utmost to negotiate uncharted waters and be helpful to each other as best we can.
Let's all keep trying to support each other. I'm sure we all agree that is the definitive underlying intention from everyone.
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One very important aspect is the mental one. We can’t let this beat us down. Depression can be very dangerous. Use good judgement, keep alert to your environment and look out for the best interest of others. In my business I am a locksmith I have to touch people’s door knobs and handles. Both in homes and businesses. I usually clean them first, then clean them again when I’m done. Once to protect myself, the second time to protect the customer.
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I appreciate your picking this up and letting me know.
Hi, Noel.
Thanks! I hope the tone of my post didn't come across as negative, I just wanted to provide enough information.
I'm going to leave it up, in case someone searches for stuff and it pops up. While looking up the information, I ran across a church website that posted the same list, so I sent them an email suggesting they remove it as well.
So far, my household of six is doing well, thanks for asking! I hope you're also doing well.
Around here all grocery stores are having supply problems so it's getting weird. We've got to go to the grocery tomorrow and I'm hoping after getting up before dawn to get there during the "senior time" the shelves won't be empty. The last time I went there was zero paper products, zero bread, zero milk, zero frozen food, zero cereal but that was around lunch time so I hope tomorrow there's something.
In my parish in southwest Louisiana we've had one death so far and as of yesterday have 42 active cases. If I had a motorcycle helmet with the plastic visor, I'd wear one of those. Uncomfortable to walk around in but at least No inadvertent touching your mouth, nose, eyes or face with one on.
I think one of the most amazing things to me anyway, are what the 3D printers can do. I saw where they're being used to make face shields that can actually be used in hospitals. Amazing machines.
UPDATE: We shopped at dawn on senior day and got everything needed and it was relatively uncrowded. What a relief.
I hope the tone of my post didn't come across as negative, I just wanted to provide enough information.
Hi David,
There was nothing offensive in your tone at all. I was sincerely glad that you discovered my mistake.
Because the list was published in a reputable newspaper, I was lax and did not investigate its accuracy. That oversight of mine could have been potentially dangerous. I'd hate to think that I was responsible for someone's losing their life. I have learnt from the experience.
I'm glad that you're leaving your comments up. There's good information in them.
Thanks again for taking the time to do the research that I should have done.
If anyone is interested or needs ideas on COVID-19 safety, the below link details the practices currently in place in my home state of Victoria (Australia). We are on Stage 3 restrictions.
In this morning's news, Australia's number of new cases fell again today and the number of people recovered overtook the number of new infections. Health authorities are cautiously optimistic as a consequence.
If anyone is interested or needs ideas on COVID-19 safety, the below link details the practices currently in place in my home state of Victoria (Australia). We are on Stage 3 restrictions.
In this morning's news, Australia's number of new cases fell again today and the number of people recovered overtook the number of new infections. Health authorities are cautiously optimistic as a consequence.
Noel, I think what is happening is good. The changes to crowd control and they way government are trying to look after folk. But I wander just how much the Ruby Princess has skewed some of the figures. Not only the Ruby Princess but border entries in general. The other thing that some folk don’t get it is the rate of increase in the daily numbers. The daily numbers are still getting up there. Also there are still many people still flouting the restrictions. I also think after a while and not too long a while folks will start to relax even more and think they have this licked but this is week one with at least 25 more weeks to go unless something changes.
My thoughts not backed up by evidence just what I think looking at the figures.
Very ture Rob. I was saddened to see that a top German politician/economist, Thomas Schafer,committed suicide over his inability to stop/reduce the economic effects of Covid-19.
Bouffier also said that Schäfer had been living under considerable worry and stress because of the current COVID-19 pandemic.
"His main concern was whether he could manage to fulfill the huge expectations of the population, especially in terms of financial aid," Bouffier said on Sunday. "He clearly couldn't see any way out. He was desperate, and so he left us. That has shocked us, has shocked me."
I watched this a few days ago and felt it was exactly as you stated. There is no need to sensationalize the situation. I appreciated the sharing of THIS kind of information. Thanks for that!
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
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