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Following Bob's train of thought...

This afternoon I helped set my Dad up to use Zoom, so he can Zoom with his siblings. He's using my Widget microphone, so all I need to do is find him a webcam.

Easy, huh? It's not like I'm looking for toilet paper.

Everyone in my household already has a computer with a built-in camera so they can Zoom their classwork. So I guess I didn't notice there had been a run on webcams.

There's nothing affordable on the local Craigslist.

Our local Target is still open, so I checked their website. They haven't got any webcams that sell for less than $400.

I had a look at the Best Buy website, and everything affordable there is sold out as well. But the brick-and-mortar store is closed, so that's sort of moot.

Fry's hasn't got any webcams, but then, they're pretty much a shell of what they used to be.

The local OfficeMax does curbside pickup, but the only webcams not listed "Out of Stock" turn out to be "For Future Pickup", which seems to be a distinction without a difference.

There are a number on Amazon, but they have reviews like "Didn't work" and "Worst webcam I ever owned.". Since some of those date back to 2008, I'm sure they work even better on Windows 10! wink

This isn't really a complaint, as much as it's an observation how fragile the supply chain can be.

Edit: Looks like I may be able to find a digital camera and make that work instead. smile

Anyway, I've got to imagine there's a huge load on the interwebs these days.

Makes my glad I'm not a network admin!

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About LA and CA. The numbers have been pretty low compared to the rest of the country. Well, that's about to change I think. Watching CNBC earlier and I found out there are over 59,000 test kits that had to be sent out to labs over the last several days and it will take a few more days to get the results back. Hmmmm...

OTOH, there's more articles about how the fatality rate is lower then they initially thought.

I sure you will enjoy that new guitar Bob. New toys are always fun!

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I sure you will enjoy that new guitar Bob. New toys are always fun!

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Bob,

Especially if they get your mind off death and destruction, even if only for a little while!

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https://www.inquirer.com/news/coronavirus-musicians-john-prine-jackson-browne-joe-diffie-20200330.html?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar

The Philadephia Inquirer just ran an article on How Hard the Corona Virus is hitting the Music World and a list of those who have died recently.

They say John Prine is starting to recover, so we wish him well, but his wife has it.

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I have voted both sides of the aisle, I'm nobody's fan-boy, and I reserve the right to criticize both parties and whoever screws up. We screwed this one up and it's costing precious lives.

Well said! I too have voted both sides in elections from dogcatcher to president. And I always criticize based on performance and not on politics! An honest person should be willing to admit their screw-ups!


Me too. Staunch independent and have voted both sides of the aisle.

Beside music. My next project is getting out the sewing machine and sewing some homemade masks. I'm no great seamstress but what the heck. It seems the new advice is to wear something over your face when you go out in case you have it and don't know it so you won't spread as much. But they don't want people getting the real n95's or the hospital surgical masks because the docs and nurses really need those. I reckon anything that offers a modicum of protection is better than nothing. Infections in my parish jumped to 90 today. Only one death so far thank God.

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Great idea! It's not only stopping you from infecting someone else, it's also wearing a mask helps you to remember to not touch your face. On another forum a guy said he was wearing his motorcycle helmet when shopping. That'll stop him from touching his face...

Post a pic of what you come up with, I think we would all like to see it.

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Hi Sundance,

I'm with you. I think that wearing any kind of mask is better than wearing none. As Bob says, it's good protection against touching your face. Our doctors are also saying that it helps reduce contamination of others if you have the virus and don't know about it.

Here in Australia, a number of our medical professionals (pharmacists in particular) are being treated really aggressively by some people. I don't get that. As I see it, like with the N95 masks you mention, we have to do everything we can to help our medics stay safe. Without them, getting through this contagion becomes much much harder.

You mentioned 'sewing' so this might interest you. I saw it on our news last night.

The below young guy is from Tasmania (my home state). He makes bears for sick children and now he's using COVID-19 isolation in a positive and productive way....



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I hope things are progressing as well as possible for you and yours.

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Noel that is such a sweet video and he's talented at making those bears. I'll be happy if our masks I make (ones for me and my husband) are wearable! LOL!. I'm so happy you are okay. My husband and I staying in as much as possible other than to venture into our own yard and when forced to go to the grocery.

I had to go take labs and they wouldn't let me cancel a doc visit. That was nerve wracking and unnecessary under the circumstances. But the new nurse practitioner refused to write my prescriptions (which have been the same for over a year) unless I came in person even though I've been seeing my regular doc who's out sick and she's filling in for - I've been seeing him for several years. So at the moment I'm pretty down on nurse practitioners at least this fresh out of school one. Maybe I just got a clueless jerk. So I hit the sanitizer every chance I got while I was at the lab and at the doc office and in my car and washed and changed as soon as I got home. Thank goodness it's been 14 days and I have no symptoms. Hope that wasn't too much info. I've missed you.

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This afternoon I helped set my Dad up to use Zoom, so he can Zoom with his siblings. He's using my Widget microphone, so all I need to do is find him a webcam.

David, do you know if Zoom allows screen sharing? I need to conduct a training session next week and don't want video but I'd like to have my screen shared and audio both directions. I can do the audio over the phone if necessary.

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Fry's hasn't got any webcams, but then, they're pretty much a shell of what they used to be.

Ahhh, Fry's Electronics! I used to shop at their very first store in Sunnyvale, CA in the mid-80s! Geeks like me were over the moon at the idea of a store where we could buy electronics parts, C compilers and snacks all in one location!! Almost as cool as the West Coast Computer Faire!

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John,

I pass this on in case it's useful... I've been using Microsoft Teams for my online school teaching and it allows me to share my screen(s) in realtime with students.

Regards,
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Hi Josie,

Not too much information at all.

Your nurse practitioner sounds like they were just making unnecessary work for themselves. If it makes you feel any better, I'm like you. When I go out where people are, which is rare, I sanitise my hands every opportunity, keep the 6 feet or so distance between people and am very mindful of everything I touch.

When I get home, it's wash and change, also. I'm aiming to hang around on Earth a while yet so I'm doing all I can to keep covid-19 at bay.

I saw a woman yesterday who was wearing rubber gloves. I haven't gone that far yet because I don't have any open wounds on my hand. Fortunately the virus doesn't penetrate skin. If I had a cut on my hand, though, I'd definitely get out the latex gloves!

Where safety is concerned, it's much better to err on the side of caution, I think.

It's great to see you in the forums, again! It's not the same when you're not here.

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David, do you know if Zoom allows screen sharing? I need to conduct a training session next week and don't want video but I'd like to have my screen shared and audio both directions. I can do the audio over the phone if necessary.

My kids - who use it for school - assure me that you can share the screen. smile


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I'm using zoom to teach my school kids. You can share your screen, see all the people at the same time or not (Top right corner). It's great. Also they've taken away the 40 min limit on the free version for the time being - at least in Hong Kong. Be warned that there have been articles about security. People taking over webcams and kids recording lessons, and spreading them on the web and basically being little [*****]. Just so you're aware. You can record your lessons to cover yourself anyway. Some of my colleagues don't show their face or home on webcam to be covered.

As for a webcam. I reckon it's of limited interest to older people. Just a lot of trouble. They seem quite happy with audio and it's a lot less bandwidth.


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John,

I pass this on in case it's useful... I've been using Microsoft Teams for my online school teaching and it allows me to share my screen(s) in realtime with students.

Regards,
Noel

Thanks Noel!!

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David, do you know if Zoom allows screen sharing? I need to conduct a training session next week and don't want video but I'd like to have my screen shared and audio both directions. I can do the audio over the phone if necessary.

My kids - who use it for school - assure me that you can share the screen. smile

Thanks David! And, thanks to your kids!!

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I'm using zoom to teach my school kids. You can share your screen, see all the people at the same time or not (Top right corner). It's great. Also they've taken away the 40 min limit on the free version for the time being - at least in Hong Kong. Be warned that there have been articles about security. People taking over webcams and kids recording lessons, and spreading them on the web and basically being little [*****]. Just so you're aware. You can record your lessons to cover yourself anyway. Some of my colleagues don't show their face or home on webcam to be covered.

As for a webcam. I reckon it's of limited interest to older people. Just a lot of trouble. They seem quite happy with audio and it's a lot less bandwidth.

Thank you lambada! I heard something about security concerns too.

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Am I going crazy yet?

Nope.

Leilani and I get along so well that 24/7/365 isn't too much time to spent together. In fact, it isn't enough.

We're making new style and fake 'disks' for Band-in-a-Box, and when we aren't doing that, we're spending quality time together.

Yesterday I left my house for the first time in over a week. We went grocery shopping for perishables. It's like living in a Sci-Fi movie. The enemy is invisible and could be anywhere (cue theremin music).

People wearing masks, keeping their distance, wearing mostly blue or purple gloves, spraying shopping carts, looking at each other with suspicious eyes, greeting cashiers behind plexiglass screens, blue tape on the floor where the lines are spaced 6' apart, and so on.

Needing gas for the car, I brought a disposable nitrile glove, touched everything with only that hand, and disposed of it before getting back in the car.

All this just seems eerie to me.

Following advice I brought a small spray bottle filled with 70% alcohol. Sprayed everything including my credit card when I took it out of the reader. We sterilized our hands before touching the car, washed them many times during the trip and first thing when we entered the house.

We unpacked everything outdoors, rubbed down with either diluted bleach/water or alcohol before bringing the groceries in the house. We stripped to our underwear and hung the grocery bags and our clothes on the clothesline (we have privacy in our back yard). We left our shoes outside as well (that part is normal practice for us).

Paranoid? No. We just decided that since some people who recover have diminished lung functionality, and since we make our living with our lungs (voice, sax, flute, wind synth) it's best to err on the side of caution.

The governor put us on a "stay at home" order today, but I've been doing that for weeks already. Since all my gigs have been cancelled, I call it "Economic Isolation" wink

I probably won't have to leave my little half-acre in paradise for another couple of weeks.

Funny result. Every day I walk up and down our dead-end street for a total of 4 miles. Getting in the car and driving down the road at 35mph seemed like I was traveling at light speed in comparison (that wore off in a mile or so).

I do hope everyone is being cautious and that none of my BiaB buddies will catch the plague.

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It's like living in a Sci-Fi movie.

I had exactly the same thought tonight as I was driving to get some takeaway food. As you say, it's very eerie right now.

I agree with you... it's much better to overly cautious than not cautious enough.

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Using Webex, Zoom, and Micro$oft Teams on my work from home as an IT person in the Stock Market/Finance industry. Webex started slowing down as soon as the virus had people switching to home. Most of us migrated to Zoom when that happened and it's been holding up well considering the large amount of users in both business and education now.




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Hi Josie,

Not too much information at all.

Your nurse practitioner sounds like they were just making unnecessary work for themselves. If it makes you feel any better, I'm like you. When I go out where people are, which is rare, I sanitise my hands every opportunity, keep the 6 feet or so distance between people and am very mindful of everything I touch.

When I get home, it's wash and change, also. I'm aiming to hang around on Earth a while yet so I'm doing all I can to keep covid-19 at bay.

I saw a woman yesterday who was wearing rubber gloves. I haven't gone that far yet because I don't have any open wounds on my hand. Fortunately the virus doesn't penetrate skin. If I had a cut on my hand, though, I'd definitely get out the latex gloves!

Where safety is concerned, it's much better to err on the side of caution, I think.

It's great to see you in the forums, again! It's not the same when you're not here.

Noel

It's great to see you in the forums, again! It's not the same when you're not here.

[Quote ]It's great to see you in the forums, again! It's not the same when you're not here.[/quote]

You are dearly loved 'round these here parts, Josie. We need your logical mind during this unprecedented crisis.

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