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I was playing around this afternoon and two songs came up sequentially in BIAB. The first was "A white Sports Coat" by Marty Robbins, and the second was "What in the World's Come over You" by Jack Scott.
When I got to the middle 8 (Bridge) I found an uncanny resemblance between the two songs.
No, scrub that, they're almost exactly the same.
Look them up on YouTube and make your own mind up.
BTW I did check, and there are two different composers.
(And I don't think I spelt "plagerism" correctly :))
Maybe "plagiarism"
Yes, spellcheck likes that.
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I was playing around this afternoon and two songs came up sequentially in BIAB. The first was "A white Sports Coat" by Marty Robbins, and the second was "What in the World's Come over You" by Jack Scott.
When I got to the middle 8 (Bridge) I found an uncanny resemblance between the two songs.
No, scrub that, they're almost exactly the same.
Look them up on YouTube and make your own mind up.
BTW I did check, and there are two different composers.
(And I don't think I spelt "plagerism" correctly :))
Maybe "plagiarism"
Yes, spellcheck likes that. I can understand you schpellink plagueurism like that after all you would not want to be guilty of using someone else’s word. How are you goin’ Tony
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I'm good thanks Tony, and I Hope you are too. Looking forward to coming up again as soon as they lift the border restrictions.
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Hi Keith. I'm not going anywhere near that one. There will be some automated web spider running in the background that reads this and reports it, and the legal fraternity will have a field day pulling it apart and wondering how they can get some litigation process going. It'll end in tears. PS: Nevertheless, still admire you for your observational skills  Tony hit the proverbial nail...
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I was playing around this afternoon and two songs came up sequentially in BIAB. The first was "A white Sports Coat" by Marty Robbins, and the second was "What in the World's Come over You" by Jack Scott.
When I got to the middle 8 (Bridge) I found an uncanny resemblance between the two songs.
No, scrub that, they're almost exactly the same.
Look them up on YouTube and make your own mind up.
BTW I did check, and there are two different composers.
(And I don't think I spelt "plagerism" correctly :))
Maybe "plagiarism"
Yes, spellcheck likes that. Very similar, using the same progression basically, which was popular during that time period in a bunch of songs. Probably different enough, but yes quite similar. I could imagine with Jack Scott's song coming after Marty's that he may have just got their on his own when writing it. But who knows?
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Isn't this just normal? There are only so many chord progressions... I-V-vi-IV has been used on at least 1 million tracks across all genres....;)
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In the bebop era it was very common for jazz musicians to take the songs they have improvised over, use the same chord progression, write a new chord progression and give it a new name. So many songs were written to the chord progression of Gershwin's "I Got Rhythm" the progression is known as "Rhythm Changes". see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_changesfor an explanation and partial list of songs. Insights and incites by Notes
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"Originality is nothing but judicious imitation."
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i'm always amazed that the banana splits never sued bob marley. the woy-oy-yoy bit of buffalo soldiers is a direct rip off of their theme song tra-la-la
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I wonder if there is a songwriter/producer out there who has written an in depth analysis of what, exactly, constitutes a 15% change. Titles cannot be copywritten, nor can progressions. I used to joke, "If I remove the c, can I count that towards the 15% ?
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i'm always amazed that the banana splits never sued bob marley. the woy-oy-yoy bit of buffalo soldiers is a direct rip off of their theme song tra-la-la
And if you sing along it's again a slightly changed rip off of: "Mama's little baby loves short'nin', short'nin', Mama's little baby loves short'nin' bread" Which was written in the late 1800's and therefore in public domain.
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i'm always amazed that the banana splits never sued bob marley. the woy-oy-yoy bit of buffalo soldiers is a direct rip off of their theme song tra-la-la
And if you sing along it's again a slightly changed rip off of: "Mama's little baby loves short'nin', short'nin', Mama's little baby loves short'nin' bread" Which was written in the late 1800's and therefore in public domain. Now you're talkin' Sooner or later what goes around, comes around. There's only 7 notes...
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Trev, I'm sure you remember the flute solo in "Down Under".
Three played notes over two bars. They got sued.
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Trev, I'm sure you remember the flute solo in "Down Under".
Three played notes over two bars. They got sued. Yes, that litigation was disgraceful. And the copyright owner didn't even know about any connection until the question was asked many years later on a quiz show. Then out came the sharks for a feeding frenzy... All for a few short seconds of a flute riff tucked in the middle of the song. I was appalled.
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Yes Trev, I was too..
But I didn't know about the quiz show. Can you expand?
Down Under was recorded in 1980, and Larrikin Music purchased the copyright of Kookaburra in 1990 for $6.00,and then sued for 5% of the royalties from Down Under (which was a big seller).
I reckon it was a set up.
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When it comes to the Kookaburra and Men at Work I’m still confused. How could anyone actually see the kiddie song in Down Under.
I reckon they got ripped off. But that is just my opinion. I also feel that sort of thing actually does more damage to music in general than it does to protect artists rights.
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Yes Trev, I was too..
But I didn't know about the quiz show. Can you expand?
Down Under was recorded in 1980, and Larrikin Music purchased the copyright of Kookaburra in 1990 for $6.00,and then sued for 5% of the royalties from Down Under (which was a big seller).
I reckon it was a set up. Hi Keith The coincidence was first raised in the music quiz show 'Spicks and Specks' 10 years after they bought the rights - (10 years, hello?) the purchasers found out that they had an opportunity to go on a feeding frenzy. Flutist Greg Ham who played the little riff, eventually took his own life. so sad
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So much for "standard" riffs and fills. So long....been good to know ya...
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