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Hello,

I'm running RealBand 2018(5) on Windows 8.1 (64bit).

I tried to add VST Plugin 'Kontakt 6 Player' and get an error-message (... is not a valid VST-Plugin ...), no matter whether I use the 32bit- or 64bit-version of the DLL.

I tried the same in BIAB 2018 and there it works!!!

Do you have an idea, what the problem could be?

(In the green popup-box appears a hint concerning 'JBridge', but as I understood, it only converts vom 32 to 64bit vice versa, but neither of these versions work ...)

Thank you for your support!

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How did you try to add it?
Did you use the FX Plugin window?
Did you make sure to add it to the top slot in that window?

There are 4 slots for FX and only the top one can hold a VSTi .. the others are for VST.
This also has to be added on a MIDI track.
If you tried to add it on an audio track it will not take, since all four slots on an audio track are for VST's (not VSTi's)

Your error message that it is not a Valid VST doesn't really help us, because I think the message is the same for VST and VSTi .. I wish that could get changed to help narrow down a user error. VSTi is different than VST, but maybe in this case it is helping us find the issue.

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That's how I tried (I get the messages in german and tried to translate them, so they may not be the exact originals):

I choose an existing MIDI-track in RealBand
Per right-mouse-klick I open the menue and select 'Open VSTi/DXi Synth Panel configuration'
The 'DirectX/VST' window appears
It shows on top as track 'CoyoteWT (Default)' and below 4 boxes of which the first again is set to 'CoyoteWT'
I open this first box and choose 'Add VSTiPlugin'
A window opens that shows my 'VSTPlugins'-folder
I choose the 'Kontakt.dll' (it is the 32bit version, the same, that worked with BIAB)
Then I get the message '...Kontakt.dll is not a valid VSTPlug-In!'
The 'DirectX/VST' window then shows/has switched to on top track 'Synth 16(Default)'

I also tried it using the 'VSTi/DXiSynth'-button in the MIDI-Block in the Top-Menue, but it leads me to the same 'DirectX/VST'-window.
What made me wonder is that in the top-line of that window that's called 'Spur' in german (track), I can't choose a track. A long list appears but whatever I choose, the content ('CoyoteWT (Default)') doesn't change. So this Top-line doesn't show the track, as I would have exspected, but the chosen plugin (?)

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Try putting the Kontakt plugin into the second (2nd) slot. The first slot is normally reserved for the program's default midi sound module (Coyote WT in this case).

Google Translate to German:

Versuchen Sie, das Kontakt-Plugin in den zweiten (2.) Steckplatz zu stecken. Der erste Steckplatz ist normalerweise für das Standard-MIDI-Soundmodul des Programms reserviert (in diesem Fall Coyote WT).


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I tried the second slot, but with the same result:
'...Kontakt.dll is not a valid VSTPlug-In!'

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Are you running RB as an administrator? If not do so. If yes then run it not as an administrator. I don't know if this will help but it may be worth a try.

Google Translate to German:

Führen Sie RB als Administrator aus? Wenn nicht, tu es. Wenn ja, führen Sie es nicht als Administrator aus. Ich weiß nicht, ob dies helfen wird, aber es könnte einen Versuch wert sein.


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I tried both, but with the same result:
'...Kontakt.dll is not a valid VSTPlug-In!'

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Are you doing this:

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Thank you very much for this demo.

I did it in a slightly other way.

But now I tried it in exactly your way and did get the same error-message. Somehow the Kontakt.DLL is not accepted, allthough in BIAB it works without problems (?). Very strange ...

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HI Cima
Very strange that.
Be aware that if you do manage to get Realband to recognise your Kontakt dll.
You will need to insert it in the tracks you require it in, and chose your Kontakt instrument and channel in Kontakt.( you can use omni or the one listed in the Realband track.
This is because simply opening a BIAB sgu/mgu in Realband does not carry over the
Plug in synths.
Once you are happy I would save as a Realband seq file for future use.
I have 2019 I might add.
However I don’t know why your Realband doesn’t recognise your Kontakt dll
As it works in BIAB.
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You can try it in one of these, load Element into the RealBand track then drag and drop Kontakt.dll into Element
Free Plugin Chainer Element + BB VST3 Support + More Midi Tracks Win\Mac
or load MiniHost then load Kontakt into it
Using Multiple VSTi Plugins on the same Track Win Mac 32 64

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