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This tutorial shows how I quickly find styles in BIAB with demonstrations where I use two songs ... "Tell It Like It Is" by Aaron Neville, and "What's Going On" by Marvin Gaye. The most important thing I find is to type the chords to the song in FIRST before going to find a style. It helps narrow down your choices considerable. Also by doing this sometimes you can find a style for a cover that you never thought of. If you've heard my Disco/House version of "Walk on By" you can hear how I typed the chords of the song in first BEFORE selecting a Disco style. https://youtu.be/xWL_owkQgqUHenry
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Henry,
Thanks so much for the video. Let me say first off that I have been using BIAB for over 2 decades and performing live with it as well. So what you have to say Is not new to me.
BUT I loved the way you presented it. Very casual to the point and with a great sense of humor.
I subscribed so I will look forward to viewing your other videos.
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Well if I made ya smile it's all worth it :-)
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Humorous, Entertaining and Educational !
If you are using 2018 PG should send you 2020 for the great videos you make promoting Band In A Box !
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Great work. I'm glad you mentioned two things.
1. That the arrangement BIAB delivers will NOT be a perfect match to the record.
2. That you can use this method to find styles "in the style of".
Time well spent.
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Pipeline: PG Music actually did send me 2020 and I did a testimonial for them. It's posted on their website. Thanks for the support. Henry
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Your videos are a lot of fun to watch and will certainly help beginners. Thank you for your efforts.
I’m curious about the tip that entering the chords of the song first will improve the results from the style picker, even when the key is different from the known song. That surprises me, if there is that level of AI going on.
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Matt, here's the deal. When you type in the chords of your favorite song you also type the chords in BAIB in the key of that song. Now at a minimum if it's one of your favorite songs you probably (should) know the melody :-) If you have that's it's just a matter of finding a pattern that is "like" the song. Of course it will not be an exact duplicate but the BIAB patterns can get pretty close. It's just a matter of going through them. In reverse if you start FROM stylepicker you will only hear the chords that BIAB selected to play. Most of the time they are far different than the song you actually want to try. That's why I say type in the chords to the song FIRST. Remember it's not the KEY you're after but more so the pattern that is like the song you're after. In my video when I did "Tell It Like It Is" I used the original sheet music chords and key then listened for pattern that gave me that Aaron Neville type rhythm. That's why I demonstrated in the video the song chords against different patterns. As far as key change the AI does that very well. I'm not sure if you're familiar with my cover of the song "Love on a 2 Way Street" (it's in the forum under BIAB on YouTube) but if so it started with the sheet music chords, finding a pattern (in this case I wanted a Jazz flavor), then changing the key to something I felt comfortable singing.
I hope I didn't ramble :-) Thanks for smiling at my video. Yes it is for beginners. I remember when I started with BIAB and how frustrated I was because everybody said it was just "elevator" music. LOL
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Thanks Henry. That’s helpful. It’s the human advantage of auditioning styles using elements of the real song that is important.
I had misunderstood and thought you were saying that it was BIAB that was more likely to find better suggestions if you entered the chords first. That would have required artificial intelligence that I didn’t think it had.
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Hi. Subscribe to my channel. I have quite a few videos with real music examples on how to use a few tools in BIAB. Thanks for watching my video and your comments.
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