Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Matt Finley #613298 09/01/20 02:17 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Yes, I record directly into my MSI computer using my USB mic. The job is usually finished at that point, unless I take the individual tracks and put them into Audacity for a "final mix". MME driver works fine in Audacity, Matt.


Having fun!
johnnyzell #613307 09/01/20 02:57 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
So you record the one audio track in BIAB using a USB mic. Then you sometimes mix in Audacity. If you record additional tracks in Audacity, you should be using ASIO. If you’re just mixing on playback, it doesn’t matter.

Now, what were you doing, with what program and what drivers, to make that audio that has stuttering?


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Matt Finley #613321 09/01/20 07:00 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
I was in the BIAB file and the drivers were set to MME. I hadn't put my trumpet on at that point. That's where the stuttering showed up and where I made the file for you to hear. When I switched to the ASIO drivers, the stuttering went away, but I can't seem to record the trumpet audio trak. When I go to record, the "VU" meters come up but show NO movement when I am playing into the USB mic.


Having fun!
johnnyzell #613332 09/01/20 07:47 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
OK. Let's go back to your equipment. On your computer, not the laptop, you said you have this:

MSI gaming machine with 32 gigs, an I-7 Intel processor, Nvidia GForce GTX audio card, Klipsch desktop sound system, Samson C01U mic and BOSE noise-cancelling headphones. BIAB 2017

So, where is the sound card here? The Nvidia is a video card, not audio. What device's ASIO driver are you using?


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
johnnyzell #613380 09/02/20 05:11 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Whoops! Yes Matt, upon checking the "Device Manager", the sound seems to be REALTEK. OS is Windows 10 Pro. "Work-Around" fix . . . I guess I can finish the chart in BIAB, then add the trumpet with another software program. My new driver is ASIO-4-ALL.

Last edited by johnnyzell; 09/02/20 05:12 AM.

Having fun!
johnnyzell #613383 09/02/20 05:55 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Great, now it makes sense. Thanks.

Ok, I’m just going to say it. If you want to do anything at all serious you should get a dedicated audio interface that has its own ASIO driver. You are driving to work every day on your riding mower.

ASIO4ALL works for some but it isn’t even ASIO. It’s an emulator. If you’ve followed what’s been said so far, you see why that’s a problem.

Realtek is the cheap sound built into most computers, especially laptops. It’s great for playback because any sound card is great for playback.

I suggest you try any of the modestly priced units from Focusrite. The difference is only in how many inputs you need, which seems small.

Questions?


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Matt Finley #613384 09/02/20 06:08 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,335
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 11,335
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Great, now it makes sense. Thanks.

Ok, I’m just going to say it. If you want to do anything at all serious you should get a dedicated audio interface that has its own ASIO driver. You are driving to work every day on your riding mower.

ASIO4ALL works for some but it isn’t even ASIO. It’s an emulator. If you’ve followed what’s been said so far, you see why that’s a problem.

Realtek is the cheap sound built into most computers, especially laptops. It’s great for playback because any sound card is great for playback.

I suggest you try any of the modestly priced units from Focusrite. The difference is only in how many inputs you need, which seems small.

Questions?


Matt, thanks for getting right to the point. I wanted to step in but I am too intimidated by the OP's star status. You have pointed out exactly what I have been screaming at my screen. grin


Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

johnnyzell #613386 09/02/20 06:36 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Wow! How about that?? NOT even ASIO! Who "would of" known. Focusrite . . . I'll remember that. Looks like I'm looking at a few days of shopping. BTW, does this new hardware run on AC or "DC" ie: battery? I don't want to introduce any extra noise onto the tracks.

Thanks for your "pro" help. JZ


Having fun!
johnnyzell #613392 09/02/20 07:41 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
That’s ok, lots of folks have made the same journey.

The Focusrite units are all USB which means they are external. Right there, any high-frequency noise from within the computer is eliminated. The AC power supplies are quiet; no worries there. But batteries are not an option; some of the smallest units run on bus power, which means they get the 5 volts from the USB line.

One more thing. The smallest Focusrite units have no mixer software. I like having mixer software but I admit it adds one more level of complexity.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
johnnyzell #613395 09/02/20 07:50 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Another tip. I buy all my audio from Sweetwater. You can call them and they will help you select the right interface and answer any questions, and then support it after the purchase. Lots of videos too. Fast shipping. My rep is Dan Van Amerongen.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Matt Finley #613400 09/02/20 08:35 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,648
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,648
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Another tip. I buy all my audio from Sweetwater. You can call them and they will help you select the right interface and answer any questions, and then support it after the purchase. Lots of videos too. Fast shipping. My rep is Dan Van Amerongen.


Another plus 1 for Sweetwater and for purchasing an audio interface (sound card) with a mixer.


Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
MarioD #613411 09/02/20 09:58 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,257
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,257
I've even purchased from Sweetwater, and can confirm that their sales people are knowledgeable on products' capabilities and specifications.


BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
johnnyzell #613426 09/02/20 12:52 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 217
Very COOL! Sounds like this is the way to go. Thanks guys!! I'll keep you up to date. BTW, my Calicchio trumpet is now nearly 80 years old. Dominic reversed the front brace on it for me in 1964 . . . allows the bell to "vibrate" more. I began silver plating it in '81. JZ


Having fun!
johnnyzell #613440 09/02/20 02:31 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
I haven’t experimented with a reverse brace, much less a reverse lead pipe. Others have said they have a more open blow?

I do still have two terrific Calicchio trumpets, one quite old built by Domenic with serial #25xx and a still fairly old Hollywood 58xx. I rarely use them anymore, in favor of my new Shires. How great it must have been for you to work with such a master! Do you have the video of him building a horn? Incredible.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
johnnyzell #613463 09/02/20 09:13 PM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,986
another plus for sweetwater and a usb interface. i don't need a mixer apart from the RB one so i have a behringer UMC404HD which was remarkably cheap and works like a charm.

johnnyzell #613525 09/03/20 05:49 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,801
Yes, Behringer makes a comparable unit. Another is this one: PreSonus AudioBox iTwo USB Audio Interface


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Happy Easter! Holiday Hours...

2024 is well underway - it's already Easter Weekend!

Our Customer Service hours this weekend are:

Friday, March 29: 8-4
Saturday, March 30: 8-4
Sunday, March 31: closed

Regular hours resume Monday, April 1st - no joke!

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created this short video to explain Audio Input Monitoring within Band-in-a-Box® 2024, and included some tips & troubleshooting details too!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Audio Input Monitoring

3:17: Tips
5:10: Troubleshooting

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#audio-input-monitoring

Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!

We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!

Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.

You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.

See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.

Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,402
Posts732,575
Members38,444
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
Descoward, danielsk, Mark Morgan, zagrajbarke, Ernest J
38,443 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 200
Al-David 132
DC Ron 115
rsdean 84
dcuny 83
Today's Birthdays
(charlie), WobblyGstring
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5