Hi Folks, Got a slight issue with "Held Chord" (...) feature. Here is what I want to accomplish. I wanted the "holding" part be a little longer. So here is what I did: My tune has tempo of 70. Right after the bar with "held" chord I created another, empty bar, altering the tempo to 210 and than the next bar with chords back to 70. So as far as time goes, it gives me exactly what I want, BUT there is a click/pop at that empty (210 tempo) bar which is cutting into the "tails" of instruments. It would not be a simple "mute" in DAW.
Is there another way to make that "held chord" longer. The goal is to make it longer, avoiding the click/pop.
Just a guess, but the click might be an artifact coming from attempting to use the RealTracks at three times their recommended speed. Try making one bar at 70 bpm instead of 210, but make it one beat long using F5. Adjust that timing for that one bar from 70 if need be but do not exceed 70 by 10% plus or minus.
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Unless I am misunderstanding what you want to do, adding a bar of 210 will make the count (1 2 3 4) in that bar travel at 3 times the speed of the count in the bars as 70. This is because of the inverse relationship between tempo and note length. (i.e as tempo increases, the time that a quarter note is played for decreases)
If having this 210 bar gives your exactly the right length of time you want the ending to be, you're better off timing the ending and then setting all the bars in the ending section to the same tempo that will give you the calculated number of seconds.
As Matt says, if you want to make bars hold the notes longer, reduce the tempo. I regularly do this and I use f5 to reduce the first bar in the one that's marked "End" in BIAB (when automatic endings are used.) I usually use between a reduction of minus 10 - 15%
How about slowing the tempo bar of the held chord?
I often adjust one bar's tempo to change the length of a chord. It works perfectly with a MIDI style, I don't know how well it would work with a Real Track style, but it's worth a try.
The easiest thing to do (in my opinion and if I am understanding your intent) is to create a new SGU file and enter a small part of the song with your held chord at the end for several measures. You can then pasted the results into your DAW mix as appropriate.
Matt, Noel, Bob, FJ, Thank you for your suggestions!
Yes, making a single beat bar with 70 tempo worked well for my needs! The issue was/is with tempo change. Whenever I altered it, even by -5%, it gave an "artifact" in sound. I guess that is because of particular RTs + the Held segment.
In any case, I consider this resolved (with single bar). Thank you all for your help!
Matt, Noel, Bob, FJ, Thank you for your suggestions!
Yes, making a single beat bar with 70 tempo worked well for my needs! The issue was/is with tempo change. Whenever I altered it, even by -5%, it gave an "artifact" in sound. I guess that is because of particular RTs + the Held segment.
In any case, I consider this resolved (with single bar). Thank you all for your help!
Just check under the Realtrack Preferences and make sure that "Tempo/Pitch Stretching" is set to high. This might help if the setting is on the default, "Medium".
That said, some Realtracks do stretch better than others.
Great, thanks for confirming. Thinking more about this, I should have mentioned that changing the tempo matters more at slow tempos. In other words, increasing up 10 bpm at 140 is less of a problem (half the percentage increase) than doing up 10 bpm at 70. So it's important to figure percentages, not fixed integers, and you understood that with your -5% experiment.
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Noel, Thank you for suggestion. Tried that, still getting a bump, but left the setting on "High", perhaps will help in another scenario. Adding a single beat bar worked well for extended rest.
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