|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,781
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,781 |
Notes, the last music store I taught in had similar experiences. Added was the fact that many manufactures demanded large purchases. The store owner was going to order me a 12 string guitar but couldn't because the manufactured a demanded $10K purchase. They would not sell small amounts to small dealers, only large amounts to big stores. That was another nail in the coffin for this local music store.
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913 |
The last new guitar I bought was a Dean Boca 12 string electric that I bought from a store called Manny’s Music in NYC. I don’t think it was the famous Manny’s, but I can say that I got great customer service from them.
I bought it from finding it on EBay and just called up the store. They had already closed their doors and were happy to sell to me direct and ship it to me out in CO.
The reason I don’t think it was the big Manny’s is because the address didn’t match the big store.
When I google searched the address the street view did show a pretty small neighborhood storefront with Manny’s Music out front, not the big famous sign.
It was a sad thing that it was closed and they were selling their inventory only on eBay but I’m pretty sure I paid them a lot more than they would have gotten from a liquidator for a brand like Dean.
Correction: it was Maggio’s Music in Brooklyn. They had several of those guitars for sale and I just checked and they still have one up on eBay.
Last edited by rockstar_not; 09/12/20 10:53 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,094
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,094 |
I live in a third world country called Homestead, Florida.<...snip...>
Billy Near the Everglades N.P. and "Robert Is Here". Homestead is not the same since the Air Force moved out and the land developers moved in. I'm with you. I've been to GC a couple of times since my local store closed. Only for something that I can't wait for delivery from Sweetwater (MIDI cable, broken mic stand). It's dark, there is someone who thinks he is a guitar god playing too loud, a couple of clerks looking busy and ignoring new walk-ins and the selection of cables and mic stands are lacking. More empty hooks than cables and only one regular sized mic stand that proved to be of inferior quality. And I remember when there were 3 mom-and-pop music stores in town. But time marches on. I no longer have a local store to support, but I get to save about 10 cents on a set of strings. Insights and incites by Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton  Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 733
Journeyman
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 733 |
Gee, I thought it was just me being a girl and getting that treatment at GC. I am not kidding.
Thanks guys! Appreciate!!!
...Deb
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,299
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,299 |
Nah. It's a bunch of minimum wage kids who are in college or playing 4 times a month in their band and still living either at home of with 3 roommates to make the rent. They will push whatever the brand of the day is that has an extra commission on it WHEN they bother to even acknowledge that you are in the store.
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
1. How much did you make in 2023?
2. Send it to us.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,705
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,705 |
The only mom pops I see surviving are the ones who do lessons, some instrument repairs but most of all have a good relationship with local schools and their bands. My personal favorite Lanier's in Mandeville, La. Randy as I kid him is as close to being an actual musician as possible, because he plays drums. Of course then he starts with the guitar player jokes. So besides being a great musician and all round good guy I would attribute his success to school programs and area gigging musicians. In fact as a fellow musician he will encourage you to take the instrument or equipment for a test drive or two on actual gigs before you purchase. I have lived and done business in many states and have never come across someone so easy and fun to deal with. https://www.facebook.com/laniermusic/PS: Randy never wears shoes, in fact his motto is "No Shoes All Service". Long live the neighborhood stores. Later,
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 733
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 733 |
A local music store closed except for
repairs
lessons - they rent out their rooms to music instructors
No sales.
Seems to be working for them.
...Deb
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,250 |
The "Neighborhood" store that I have the fondest memories of was in St. Albans, WV. It's called Fret 'n Fiddle.
I became friends with Joe Dobbs, the owner and founder and I frequently showed up there on Sat. afternoons for impromptu jam sessions for several years.
Joe was a local celebrity, fiddler, radio show host, musical historian and all around nice guy. I've bought, sold and traded more instruments with him than all of the other people I've dealt with combined. Joe passed away just a few years ago. I think about him fondly very often.
I remember riding my motorcycle there one Sat. and parked it beside Joe's Harley Electra Glide. I told him what a beautiful bike it was and commented that I'd never rode one and almost instantly the keys to it came sliding across the counter. "Then ride one now!" I thanked him profusely and handed his keys back to him and said "I can't afford to buy it, so I can't afford to ride it".
That's the kind of guy Joe was. He's still missed and mentioned frequently by tons of people in the area.
His store wasn't just a music store, ... it was a meeting point for a lot of local musicians.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,352
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,352 |
His store wasn't just a music store, ... it was a meeting point for a lot of local musicians. That's exactly what's largely missing nowadays. I wonder will that level of quality ever return?
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,299
Veteran
|
|
OP
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 7,299 |
His store wasn't just a music store, ... it was a meeting point for a lot of local musicians. That made me smile because it reminded me of one specific guy in our area. He would hang around the music stores, talk all the music smack, test guitars with the 3 licks he knew, then go to the next store and do it again. Yet nobody ever actually saw the guy play. He was never in a band, nobody on the booking side of the music world had ever heard of him. He used to talk about how "Yeah. That's my style." stuff but he never played anywhere. And I bet every town has their handful of guys just like that.
I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines.
1. How much did you make in 2023?
2. Send it to us.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,094
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 6,094 |
There used to be a store in Miami like that, Ace Music. It was a big mom and pop, started small and grew quite large.
It had instruments you can try before you buy. I tried out three top-of-the-line Selmer saxes (Mark VI) and picked the one with the best intonation. They carried Gibson, Fender, and other major brands too.
And it was a meeting place for musicians. Whenever you went there, a dozen or so musicians were hanging around, trading gig stories, sharing instrument experiences and just shooting the $@(%.
It was purchased by a chain called Mars, which was run by bean counters instead of musicians and Mars eventually went belly-up.
Broward Band Instruments in Ft Lauderdale was like that but with fewer instruments (no guitars, just wind instrument) and a bigger repair operation. They even had "Sound Proof" practice rooms where you could try things out before you bought them without disturbing the other customers.
The last two saxes and guitars I bought on the Internet, and didn't get to try them out first. I went on the recommendation of others, and they turned out fine, but I would have rather sampled before I bought.
But this is the present, and there is no going back. The Internet gave us a lot, but it took some things away too.
Insights and incites by Notes
Bob "Notes" Norton Norton Music
https://www.nortonmusic.com
100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,629
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2020
Posts: 1,629 |
The Internet gave us a lot, but it took some things away too. The internet took more than it gave, I figure.
I work here
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,323
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 9,323 |
Local music stores..... Haven't seen one of those in decades.
Back in the day however, there was one just down the block and around the corner a bit. Since I was mostly an unemployed individual and a musician ( is that redundant? ) I used to go there a lot just to hang out. Other musicians would wander in and we would often have impromptu jams in the store. It was a great place to hang out back then.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,582
Posts734,689
Members38,499
| |
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean