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#615839 - 09/20/20 08:32 AM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: pghboemike]
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I'm a big fan of Rick myself. I'm always looking for good sites on YouTube for learning about music, music theory, and entertainment, and he is one of my favorites. I've probably learned more about music theory from his videos than any other single source. Sometimes I laugh at him because he gets so into the song he's playing, or he rants but you can see he just lives and breathes music, and he knows an incredible amount. Rick has introduced me to a lot of great music that I would never have known about - for example Allan Holdsworth's IOU album, the amazing guitar work of Wes Montgomery, Martha Argerich (wow - how did I miss her??).
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#615841 - 09/20/20 08:38 AM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: rayc]
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Originally Posted By: rayc
pop music is POPULAR music and, as such, is faddish, cyclical, auto-cannibalistic and often anathema to those not of the current target demographic.


Rayc - so spot on and well spoken smile
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#616090 - 09/21/20 11:40 PM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: pghboemike]
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I have been one of his subscribers for about 3 years now. I have lifted chord progressions and ideas from several of the WMTSG? Series.

I’m trying to recall a single time where he was trying to promote himself as a big producer and I can’t recall one.

What I do love is his way that he has shown me a side door to bands that I have sneered at before or simply just disregarded. Particularly in their unique chord progressions or bass lines or production tricks or you name it. I really could care less if he has or has not produced a hit record. I have learned a great deal from him and rarely do I listen/watch one of his videos where I don’t come away from the time spent and regret it. Rather the opposite. For that, I am very glad his vids are available. His joy in enjoyment of great rock music is infectious.

It sure beats watching the news.



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#616105 - 09/22/20 06:02 AM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: pghboemike]
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I thought it was an interesting video - interestingly, I never thought to question the legitimacy of Rick Beato's career. I've never followed TONS of what he does but it's always been very apparent he knows his stuff.
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#616287 - 09/23/20 01:38 PM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: pghboemike]
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Interesting views and fun to see how quickly he "digs" the progression. And yes he seems quite pleased with himself grin
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#616526 - 09/25/20 04:42 AM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Here I go, ruffling feathers again.

Who exactly is this schmuck beyond a self proclaimed music industry somebody with a youtube channel? He keeps telling us what a producer he is but I can't find anything about him that mentions any bands of note. Parmalee is the most successful, and from what I read on a quick scan they sold 7300 copies of their most successful album, and I don't even know if that is the one Beato produced. He seems to produce first albums of a bunch of nobody bands that don't sell and they move on to someone else. I just don't see that he has the cred to be blowing his own horn like he does. 90% of his income comes from youtube videos that I watch 3 or 4 minutes of before I realize it's not really all that interesting. He has a ton of gear but anybody can buy gear.

What exactly am I missing? I mean this is not Bob Clearmountain or Mutt Lange here. With so many bands self producing, people like this are losing relevance every day. For a while there every video had some guitar player named Rhett Shull on it, and more research on that guy shows he is a hired gun player who primarily plays with a lot of lower level bands. If somebody wants to get my attention, produce albums for acts that play arenas.

The link below is his production resume. Anybody there REALLY catch your eye? For me he falls into that group of youtube heroes who have no real job and need some kind of scam to make money. All the "guitar teachers" and guitar "techs" who restring guitars and gear channels run by people who don't even play in bands.... I don't get it.

https://www.allmusic.com/artist/rick-beato-mn0000357243/credits

Please enlighten me.


His videos on music theory are quite interesting if you are interested in that. He actually makes most of his money selling his Beato Book which is his music theory instruction. Most of his videos get de-monetized because he uses copyrighted music in his discussions so the rights holders get paid not him. He is also a pretty good guitarist, even outstanding.

I enjoy why is this song great series as he dissects some pretty good songs and explains why he thinks they were good and successful. His opinion of course. Plenty of good old rock and pop for us old guys.

But hey, it is not everybody's cup of tea and of course nobody forces you to watch him. There are only a billion other videos to watch on YouTube.
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#616527 - 09/25/20 04:48 AM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
To reiterate, Rick Beato does have two Dove Awards as a producer and no Parmalee in site. That is first tier producing.


I have never heard of a Dove award, but I'll take your word for it.


I don't remember seeing him say he is some kind of world class producer. He is just a guy with a lot of knowledge trying to make a living in a music business that is becoming increasingly hard to make a living in.

Since 1969 the GMA Dove Awards has honored outstanding achievements and excellence in Christian and Gospel Music.
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#616748 - 09/26/20 07:25 PM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: pghboemike]
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Shall I add that he is one of the rare interviewer to leave complete space to his guest. Never interrupting them, speaking too much, wanting to show off etc. On the contrary, he has a LOT of respect for musicians he interviews and humilty towards them (watch his full interview of Frank Gambale, you'll see what I mean).

You can dislike the guy if he is not your cup of tea but putting in suspicion his skills, expertise, and talent is not justified. Plus, this is is channel so if he wants to give his opinion on this or that, he is free to do it.
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#616777 - 09/27/20 02:19 AM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: pghboemike]
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I can't say I learn a lot from his theory videos. Much of it is too far over my head and current understanding, and what isn't tends to not be presented as "well" as others may who are more focused on that aspect. Still, I've picked up bits jut watching even if I prefer it "explained" by others.

It well could be by year's end he has 2 million subscribers. He's an excellent resource for introducing his older audience to new acts, and his younger audience to old acts. I doubt anybody is doing it better, except maybe some of those "reaction" videos-

I think his "what Makes This Song Great" series is outstanding--super advice from example on everything from writing to musical knowledge to introductions to production. He's no you-tube hobbyist.

Sooner or later, I'll get his book. There's no doubt he knows his stuff, and I'll be able to peruse it more slowly than watching it fly by on a video.


Edited by Tangmo (09/27/20 02:25 AM)
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#619111 - 10/14/20 05:07 PM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: MusicStudent]
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Just seems pretty petty to be bad mouthin a workin man in the music industry.

That's a very odd statement.
I've known a few people "workin ..in the music business..." that deserve being called out.
Let's try "Just seems pretty petty to be bad mouthin' a workin' man in the adult film industry."
or
"Just seems pretty petty to be bad mouthin' a workin' womman in the solar industry."
How about...
"Just seems pretty petty to be bad mouthin'."?
OR allow folk to express a contrary opinion.


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#619234 - 10/15/20 08:03 PM [Songwriting] Re: Rick beato reviews the top 10 [Re: pghboemike]
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I like Rick's videos. I think he's being generous with his praise for some of these songs. I just can't imagine any of them being played at football stadiums, for example, 50 years from now the way the 60s and 70s songs are played today. They probably won't have any staying power.


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