|
|
|
|
#617305 - 09/30/20 02:36 PM
[User Showcase]
Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
|
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
Veteran
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
|
Back Burner Man In 1967 I (Bud) listened to Cream's Disraeli Gears when it hit the stores - it quickly steered me from my more psychedelia playlist! I was particularly struck by Outside Woman Blues (one of my early entries into blues rock). The notion of a man keeping an "outside woman” has shown up several times over the years in blues songs. So Janice and I thought it was high time for the woman to have her say  resulting in this “response” song. Channeling Cream is obviously out of the question! But we do hope to have established a few hints. Jack Bruce often had a bit of an over driven bass sound so at Peter’s suggestion we processed the bass RT with some overdrive, tape sat and vintage compression. Peter also altered some of the bass notes to better fit the progression (that includes the infamous “Hendrix chord”). Finally (yea) and FWIW the mix and mastering is influenced by the Disraeli Gears sound, i.e., heavy snare, the processed bass, the guitar FX, a bit more compression throughout, etc. A big thanks to PG Music and Peter. Comments are welcomed and we appreciate your time. Be safe. Janice: Arrangement, melody, lead vocal/harmony and counter point lead/harmony Peter: All guitar tracks - solos, fills, turnarounds and rhythm Bud: Lyric, arrangement, SC photo and the tech stuff. Bass: RT 572 Electric Blues BB Drums: RD BluesRockSlowEv^4-a:Snare, b:Snare, HiHat Drums (tag): Nashville 8ths and added cymbal swell sample Snare double: Logic Pro X Drummer Track effects: Nectar 2, Waves CLA Vocals, Waves CLA Drums, Neutron 3 and Waves Bass Rider Mastering: Logic Pro X EQ > Ozone 9 Dynamics > Ozone 9 Imager > Ozone 9 Maximizer > Izotope Tonal Balance 2 > Izotope Loudness Meter Equipment: Rodes NT1 mic and Scarlett 212 interface Edit (10/02/2020): From Peter: Just a quick note on the guitar - used a Line 6 Variax -(the Les Paul was in the other room and it was all hooked up to the Helix). Also a Line 6 Helix amp simulator, chose a Marshall Amp - rolled off the treble on the guitar - turned up the amp - instant Woman Tone - as per Clapton's instructions on the Goodbye Cream video, played one note - instantly sounded like Strange Brew (Dave almost impossible not to sound like it!) and took it from there. DAW: Logic Pro X Arranged in BiaB via multiple SGU movement to and from Australia. 
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617323 - 09/30/20 04:56 PM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 10/02/19
Posts: 294
Loc: Aberdeen, NC
Apprentice
Registered: 10/02/19
Posts: 294
Loc: Aberdeen, NC
|
Child, you have such a "Heat of the Night" twinge in your voice!
Yeah, maybe Cream should have had a lady singer on some of their songs.
This is just so well put together and period correct sounding!
Awesome job folks. Thanks for posting...
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617338 - 09/30/20 06:41 PM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Bawb]
|
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
Veteran
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
|
Child, you have such a "Heat of the Night" twinge in your voice!
Yeah, maybe Cream should have had a lady singer on some of their songs.
This is just so well put together and period correct sounding!
Awesome job folks. Thanks for posting... Thanks! Love that vocal description  And we’re glad you felt that it reflected the period. It was fun! J&B
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617350 - 10/01/20 12:27 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 04/13/16
Posts: 4317
Loc: Cooran Queensland Australia
Veteran
Registered: 04/13/16
Posts: 4317
Loc: Cooran Queensland Australia
|
Wow, and I mean WOW. The guitars tones are some strange brew. The minimalist band allows everything to BE. The lyrics ... cool and very effective. melody ACE!. Vocals.. as bawb said they make the case for Cream having had a woman's voice as counterpoint to Eric N Jack's earnest efforts. Peter F ...exemplary mate. With only Eric left it's great to hear the sound and the drive of such an influential band in new music. EXCELLENT!
Edited by rayc (10/01/20 12:28 AM)
_________________________
Cheers rayc "What's so funny about peace, love & understanding?" - N.Lowe
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617369 - 10/01/20 04:40 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: rayc]
|
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
Veteran
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
|
Wow, and I mean WOW. The guitars tones are some strange brew. The minimalist band allows everything to BE. The lyrics ... cool and very effective. melody ACE!. Vocals.. as bawb said they make the case for Cream having had a woman's voice as counterpoint to Eric N Jack's earnest efforts. Peter F ...exemplary mate. With only Eric left it's great to hear the sound and the drive of such an influential band in new music. EXCELLENT! Janice read this and had one word immediately ... AWESOME! Bud was smiling as soon as he read “strange brew.” Ray, your knowledge of rock offered us a huge sense of validation regarding our production objectives. Needless to say we much appreciate your time to listen and offer such a supportive review. Thank you! J&B
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617405 - 10/01/20 08:01 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 1009
Loc: Belgium
Expert
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 1009
Loc: Belgium
|
Hello Janice & Bud,
Composition very well done as usual. The guitar solo goes very well and Janice's voice still beautiful. I notice that you use the same mixing tools as me Ozone 9 and its derivatives. Nice composition.
Kindly regard Dero13 alias JaniJackFlash
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617406 - 10/01/20 08:06 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5897
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
Veteran
Registered: 12/29/12
Posts: 5897
Loc: Originally Missouri ... Now Al...
|
Let's see: Jack Bruce, Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and Janice Merritt. Yep, I think that would have worked. But, on the other hand, Janice, Bud & Peter seems to be working pretty danged good, too! Loved the tone on Peter's guitar ... true to the times.
With Janice lighting up the mic, Bud slinging words around until they fit as a perfect lyric ... along with some serious knob twisting, and Peter equally the Eric Clapton sound ... what more could you ask for?
As I listened, I checked a couple of times to see if my pants were bell bottoms, my hair was long and frizzy, and if the colors in my shirt would have made Ray Charles squint. Well, they weren't, but they easily could have been!
That was as thought it came from a time capsule. Excellent! I'd buy another ticket for that trip! ok, I'll get to the point - I like it a lot!
Best to all three of you. Please be safe ...
Alan
_________________________
BIAB 2018 Ultra Plus-all StylePaks*Win10*8GB DDR4*I5-6th Gen*AT 2035 Mic*Peavey Nashville 112 Amp*Ibanez ART120 Electric/Washburn D200S Acoustic*Stromberg Monterey Jazz Guitar Loops: https://aldavidmusic.wixsite.com/bestmusicloops
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617418 - 10/01/20 10:14 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 10121
Loc: Florida
Veteran
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 10121
Loc: Florida
|
PB&J,
Some very Creamy guitar! Great job on that Peter...rhythm, fills and solo... Nice!
Nice choice for Drums (though the drums fills could have been a bit "showy" at times). The Bass is nice and Punchy!
A good Blues write. Classic sounding.
The Usual Superb Vocal from The Star. Damn! you are good!
Mix is SUPERB. Everything has the perfect space. And then tightly knot.
Excellent.
Creamy.
fj
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617424 - 10/01/20 11:20 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 06/09/16
Posts: 3128
Veteran
Registered: 06/09/16
Posts: 3128
|
J&B and Peter, WOW!! That`s my kind of throwback music- spinetingling from the opening guitar riff. Great to hear Janice sounding so right on this and the guitar throughout is stellar... as is the production. The only thing I could wish for( and how would you find it?)is more Ginger Baker brilliance on the drums. This is a marvellous surprise.
Robert
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617436 - 10/01/20 12:49 PM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Derochette]
|
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
Veteran
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
|
Hello Janice & Bud,
Composition very well done as usual. The guitar solo goes very well and Janice's voice still beautiful. I notice that you use the same mixing tools as me Ozone 9 and its derivatives. Nice composition.
Kindly regard Dero13 alias JaniJackFlash Thanks! And yes Izotope has some great products. We also like the Waves CLA suite and the Waves multiband compressor.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617443 - 10/01/20 02:22 PM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 6559
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Veteran
Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 6559
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
|
Very cool. Peter nailed Eric’s tone and phrasing. Needless to say very difficult without a full stack turned to 11. Loved this tune . Very cool lyric and Janices vocal was perfection. Loved your production on this Bud 10’s all around
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617452 - 10/01/20 05:48 PM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Al-David]
|
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
Veteran
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
|
Let's see: Jack Bruce, Eric Clapton, Ginger Baker and Janice Merritt. Yep, I think that would have worked. But, on the other hand, Janice, Bud & Peter seems to be working pretty danged good, too! Loved the tone on Peter's guitar ... true to the times.
With Janice lighting up the mic, Bud slinging words around until they fit as a perfect lyric ... along with some serious knob twisting, and Peter equally the Eric Clapton sound ... what more could you ask for?
As I listened, I checked a couple of times to see if my pants were bell bottoms, my hair was long and frizzy, and if the colors in my shirt would have made Ray Charles squint. Well, they weren't, but they easily could have been!
That was as thought it came from a time capsule. Excellent! I'd buy another ticket for that trip! ok, I'll get to the point - I like it a lot!
Best to all three of you. Please be safe ...
Alan Even if that had not been about the three of us it would’ve brought a smile to our faces. Thanks for helping us feel we did the era a bit of justice. Hey in 1967 my pants were bell bottoms, my hair was long and I had some awful shirts!  Thanks for every word of that review. They are appreciated! Take care, J&B
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617472 - 10/02/20 01:44 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 12/27/14
Posts: 720
Loc: France
Journeyman
Registered: 12/27/14
Posts: 720
Loc: France
|
Hi Janice, Bud and Peter. It's wonderful to hear what you can do with a traditional blues structure. The arrangements are terrific, the guitars are mesmerizing and Janice's voice is outstanding ! Thanks for making blues staying alive. Christian
Edited by Chris37 (10/02/20 02:09 AM)
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617474 - 10/02/20 01:58 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 4297
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Veteran
Registered: 11/30/07
Posts: 4297
Loc: Ontario, Canada
|
Man, I thought you guys were going to do Strange Brew at first, that guitar intro is pretty similar  I was a huge Cream fan back in the day, wore the grooves off those records. Still am actually. Guys, this is FANTASTIC!!!!!!!! Peter is channeling his inner E.C., both in terms of style and tone, just perfect. And Janice!!! I don't think I've ever heard her sound better. Just as good as it gets, fabulous. Excellent write and mix, Bud. You guys are the best in my book, love everything you do.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617480 - 10/02/20 02:58 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 7082
Loc: South Carolina
Veteran
Registered: 04/07/13
Posts: 7082
Loc: South Carolina
|
Another great collaboration. Stellar write, recording, arrangement, production and performance. The vocals and guitars are spot on. Everything about this is top notch. You've 'channeled' the Cream to the top of the butter churn this time. Enjoyed my listen.
_________________________
BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2022:RB 2022, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617491 - 10/02/20 04:24 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 1520
Loc: Charlotte, NC
Expert
Registered: 12/29/10
Posts: 1520
Loc: Charlotte, NC
|
Some feedback from someone who has no reference point to the musical influences that folks are bringing up...love the whole thing! Wonderful slow-rolling, heavy-syrup flow, beautiful vocal, esp liked the unison guitar soloing..great work!!
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617501 - 10/02/20 05:36 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: floyd jane]
|
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
Veteran
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11618
Loc: GA USA
|
PB&J,
Some very Creamy guitar! Great job on that Peter...rhythm, fills and solo... Nice!
Nice choice for Drums (though the drums fills could have been a bit "showy" at times). The Bass is nice and Punchy!
A good Blues write. Classic sounding.
The Usual Superb Vocal from The Star. Damn! you are good!
Mix is SUPERB. Everything has the perfect space. And then tightly knot.
Excellent.
Creamy.
fj
Thanks! And especially for “classic sounding” as that was the goal. Janice and, I’m sure, Peter are most appreciative of your remarks on their performances. Interestingly Baker’s playing was relatively straight forward on Outside Woman ... but hugely nuanced with a great outro. No surprise  And another thanks for mentioning the mix - only a few tracks but time consuming. We are very pleased you felt it worked. J&B
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617510 - 10/02/20 06:48 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 12/13/13
Posts: 827
Expert
Registered: 12/13/13
Posts: 827
|
Fantastic, Folks! Truly.
Janice, you have a style that's all your own and it's a joy to hear you bring it. Outstanding. And those backup singers - well, they're quite good too:)
Peter, as much as I dig RT's there just isn't any substitute for tasty tracks composed for the song and performed by a talented musician such as yourself. Take a bow.
Bud, the mixing and mastering are magnifique. So much so, that I didn't really even think about it until after I listened. Top shelf. And once again, I appreciate you sharing your work flow.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617534 - 10/02/20 08:50 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 01/06/20
Posts: 1748
Loc: Illinois
Expert
Registered: 01/06/20
Posts: 1748
Loc: Illinois
|
So cool, Well done all the way around. Another great collaboration. Excellent vocals as usual, guitar is fantastic. Nicely glued together.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
#617554 - 10/02/20 11:02 AM
[User Showcase]
Re: Back Burner Man (feat. PeterF on guitar)
[Re: Janice & Bud]
|
Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 2339
Veteran
Registered: 12/26/11
Posts: 2339
|
Hi J&B and Peter great work I listen to a lot of cream in my day Janice well done!! love the backing vocals great job peter on guitars brought back memories thanks for sharing Eric
_________________________
AMD (TM) 8150 3.60 GHz Eight Core Processor 64 bit windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card delta 1010 pci card 500 ssd drive 3 other drives guitars 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100 pedal Carvin SRS Studio reference series
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
How to: Replace a RealTrack with a MIDI Track in Band-in-a-Box®
Band-in-a-Box® Tuba RealTracks
How to: Search for RealTracks in Band-in-a-Box®
Update Your Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows Today!
Using Band-in-a-Box 2022 for Windows? Great news! We've released a free update that enhances many of the MIDI features and Drum Stems tracks, updates the program manual and documentation, and resolves a few user reported issues.
This free update includes additional enhancements to the DAW Plugin, and updates it to version 4.5.33.
Make sure you download this free update today!
Learn more...
How to: Capturing and Adding a Screenshot to the PG Music Forums
The PG Music Forums is packed with an incredibly active community, always happy to discuss and share Band-in-a-Box tips, help with any questions other users have, and of course share their songs!
Want to know how to add a screenshot to your forum post? Follow the steps in our helpful video tutorial.
Band-in-a-Box® Utility Tracks User Tip
#TipTuesday
Utility Tracks were added to Band-in-a-Box® with version 2021. With this feature, there are now 16 editable Utility tracks in Band-in-a-Box®, which can be used for audio and/or MIDI! Generate RealTracks, RealDrums, MIDI tracks, and you can even record or import existing Audio or MIDI files to these tracks!
See how forum user justanoldmuso utilizes this feature to streamline their workflow with their recent post, Side benefit of biab added utility tracks.
How to: Capturing and Adding a Screenshot to Live Chat Support
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
36028 Members
64 Forums
74367 Topics
652470 Posts
Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|