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#618940 - 10/13/20 11:20 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius?
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Hi,

I mostly wanted to know if any of you are using Scan Score. Finale has dropped scanning.

I just downloaded the free version of Sibelius and like all Avid products you can use ILOCK....which I dislike. I have one...think Pro Tools

I downloaded a trial version of Scan Score but it would not let me save a file as midi. That was what I was mostly after.

Thanks,


Billy

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#618988 - 10/13/20 11:02 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Hi,
I'm using ScanSCore. Mostly only melody, sometimes with harmony or even 2 harmony systems.For me, it works good enough. Input is scanner or PDF. I export music xml, then import to EasyABC (an abc notation tool, free, a litte tricky to install). There I do the fine work. It has a good export function (midi, pdf, xml).
I don't remember the last time I exported direct to midi, so I can't really say something to this feature. I'm using Version 2.5.3

maybe this helps a little
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#619001 - 10/14/20 04:19 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Thanks Wolfgane,

I went ahead and got the program. It is not very expensive and has worked well on PDF's. I will try to scan some sheet music today. I also wonder if it can read handwritten sheet music.



Thanks,

Billy

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#619017 - 10/14/20 06:15 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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One of my scanning programs balks at anything that was not professionally published. Another will only read scores produced by the more popular music notation programs. Another reads only PDFs. That’s why I have several.

All of them produce errors. None reads hand-written music (although Presonus Notion 6 will do so on an iPad with Apple Pencil).

Best tip: make sure the paper is precisely aligned in the scanner; place it on the scanner platter yourself and don’t use the sheet feeder.
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#619058 - 10/14/20 11:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Thanks Matt,

I guess this is better than transcribing everything by hand and playing everything live...perhaps...lol

Cheers,

Billy

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#619063 - 10/14/20 12:42 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Usually I would say Yes. If you’re working with an old score with crumples and pencil marks, then no.

Another limitation on versions of music scanning software is the number of staves your music is allowed to have. Pay more for more staves.
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#619421 - 10/17/20 09:09 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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I've been seeing a lot of YouTube ads recently for Scan Score. I've tried d/l'ing their demo but haven't had any luck running it. On startup it asks for a provided license key, and Scan Score didn't provide one, in an email or anything else I can see. I even contacted them about this, but still no response.

For the past few years I've been using Neuratron Photoscore and NotateMe. It works okay. Even with a clear pdf it will generate transcription errors, so I often spend a good deal of time correcting them in the score itself. But it works, which is why I keep using it. MuseScore is supposed to have this feature, but from what I understand, even though it supposedly has it, it hasn't been fully addressed yet. There's another product out there called SmartScore X, which has a slick interface, but I can't get it to work at all. It reads in the files just fine, but then generates totally unusable garbage. Maybe I have something set wrong, but I've looked and I don't know what it might be.
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#619432 - 10/17/20 11:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Hi Michael,

I found their demo worked for me but did not have the functionally I needed.

I bought the software and it has performed as expected. It was pretty cheap, $40.

It makes less mistakes reading notation than I do....lol

Chears,

Billy

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#619434 - 10/17/20 12:19 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Hey Billy, what sort of functionality do you need? Me, I need something that will transcribe symphonic scores. In other words, lots and lots of staves. Will Scan Score do this?

It would also be really nice if the program could read in numbers of measures with rests, so everything stays lined up. In symphonic transcriptions, often you'll find sections of the score that are truncated because some of the instruments are laying out, so they aren't even shown. This plays hell with the transcribing software, though, cuz it gets everything out of alignment. Full scores, where the instruments are fully shown, cost a lot, and aren't that easy to find.


Edited by cooltouch (10/17/20 12:24 PM)
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#619456 - 10/17/20 03:11 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Came across a product called PlayScore.

https://www.playscore.co/

Apparently they have a "light" version that may be cost effective.

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#619465 - 10/17/20 04:51 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Hi Michael,

My needs are pretty simple. Single instrument transcription too midi.

Scan Score has a Professional version which cost about $200 dollars. It will read multiple staves. How many, I don't know. What other issues you may find with rest and such I also don't know.

It can be used with a smartphone app to photograph scores. It can export both XML and Midi files that notation programs can read.

Here is a link to a site for info about several of the current scanning programs.https://www.musicrepo.com/music-scanning-software/

Cheers,

Billy

Edit: There is something called Photo Score. It says it can read up to 64 staves. I also says it can read hand written music. It cost 400 euros in Germany.


Edited by Planobilly (10/17/20 04:58 PM)

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#619467 - 10/17/20 06:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Planobilly]
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Photo Score? Thanks, that one is news to me.
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#619486 - 10/18/20 12:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: What do you use to scan sheet music? Scan Score? Sibelius? [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Photo Score? Thanks, that one is news to me.


After looking at some reviews, it looked like a pretty iffie program.

I understand the demo is nothing like the real program and the reviews were based in the demo but....

I have not tried it.

Cheers,

Billy

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