Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 269
berntd Offline OP
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 269
Hello

I have C C+ F ina song.

But the C+ is no different to the C.


Does BIAB ignore the + or aug?

Or this is a setting somewhere that I need to change?

The style is _DIXIEMED

Edit: Style is _DIXIMED

Regards
Bernt




Last edited by berntd; 10/17/20 02:53 PM.

Band in a Box
Latest: ULTRA 2020 (734) on Win 10
And: MEGA 2020 (720) on Windows 7

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,256
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,256
Presuming you meant _DIXIMED (only one 'E') then I just tried it and the augmented C plays for me, both audibly and visually in the score.

Any chance that your tracks re frozen?

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
2020-10-17_23-52-39.jpg (206.42 KB, 151 downloads)

BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,838
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,838
Berntd,

Here are a couple of things to check that could stop the augmented chord playing. See the image below.

These are found in "Song Settings" -- right-click on the chordsheet and select "Song Settings" from the menu.


1. Make sure that "Natural Arrangement" (#2 on image) is DISABLED for the song.

2. Make sure that "Force Simple Arrangement" (#1 on image) is activated.


These changes will set BIAB play the chords as entered.

Regards,
Noel

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
force simple arrangement.JPG (60.29 KB, 145 downloads)

MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2024
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 269
berntd Offline OP
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 269
Hello,

Thanks for that.

Force song to simple arrangements does not fix it. It does change the arrangement though in other ways.

What seems to fix it is the Natural arrangement option.

I changed it from "As per options" to "Disabled for this song"

I have attached the difference in arrangements.

Regards
Bernt

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)

Band in a Box
Latest: ULTRA 2020 (734) on Win 10
And: MEGA 2020 (720) on Windows 7

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,256
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,256
Glad you got it going. I never use Natural Arrangement. It dumbs everything down. It's permanently disabled on my system.


BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
Yes, as VideoTrack mentions, you have the option to turn it off globally. I do use Natural Arrangement sometimes because it can sound good on some songs, but not on songs where I want to hear specific upper extensions of chords. So, experiment.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,838
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 18,838
Like Videotrack, I have Natural Arrangement permanently off on my system to. I prefer BIAB to play the chords exactly as I put them in.

If the "Force simple arrangement" is off, this will stop BIAB playing 7th chords in place of majors (I think that this is its main purpose).

Glad you got it working!
Noel




MY SONGS...
Audiophile BIAB 2024
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 269
berntd Offline OP
Apprentice
OP Offline
Apprentice
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 269
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Glad you got it going. I never use Natural Arrangement. It dumbs everything down. It's permanently disabled on my system.


Interesting. I am not even sure what exactly it means.


Band in a Box
Latest: ULTRA 2020 (734) on Win 10
And: MEGA 2020 (720) on Windows 7

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
It’s hard to explain because we users do not know exactly what it does. That’s why I try a song with and without. If you ask a specific question, we might be able to answer.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Never understood why it was created as an option.
Why input the chords you want only for BB to ignore them and play a 'dumbed down' simplified version?
If I want C - Am - F - G7 thats what I'll type.
Bests
Ian


Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was!
BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10

ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp
SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB-
http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel
Videos-
https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,256
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,256
That's my take also. If I want an augmented chord, or a 7th or a 9th, that's what I ask for. If I didn't want them, I simply wouldn't ask for them wink


BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,638
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,638
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
That's my take also. If I want an augmented chord, or a 7th or a 9th, that's what I ask for. If I didn't want them, I simply wouldn't ask for them wink


Same here!


Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
I admit I don’t know for sure but if you enter standard chord progressions, Natural Arrangement is not a factor. C Am F G7 always had BIAB playing things like Cmaj7 Am7 F7 G7b9 just because BIAB always used AI to ‘jazz it up’ unless you specifically said not to and used a very simple style.

No, where Natural Arrangement makes changes is if you enter more complex upper extensions like C13(#11) Am11 F13b9 G13sus. It’s very likely the RealTracks that were recorded by the artists did not play this exact progression. Yes, BIAB could play those chords but most keyboard and guitar players would simplify it. That’s what I think Natural Arrangement does. I think...


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,519
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,519
I have found lately that certain instruments like steel do not always play the chord all other instruments are playing. Every chord I used, in the key of E major, was in key except a F#major.

I had to mute out all the one bar F# major chords for the steel. Perhaps that one bar could be changed in Melodyne...I did not try. Just fire the steel player and get someone who can play...lol

There are many seriously irritating things about BIAB.

Cheers,

Billy


New location, new environment, new music coming soon

Seize the moo-ment
If you feel like you’ve herd all these cow puns before, you probably have deja-moo
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 274
Yes but I still love it. Xxx smile


BiaB2022PLUS,927. every extras pack I can find ;-),Sonar7XL,Win 10
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,638
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,638
Originally Posted By: WendyM
Yes but I still love it. Xxx smile


It is ironic that this software with so many "seriously irritating things" and in some areas so far behind today's competition that it still is our favorite software.


Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 25,798
Originally Posted By: MarioD
Originally Posted By: WendyM
Yes but I still love it. Xxx smile


It is ironic that this software with so many "seriously irritating things" and in some areas so far behind today's competition that it still is our favorite software.
Both right!

I remain curious if any of you agree with my assessment of how Natural Arrangement applies, a few posts above.


BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,243
Matt, I think you have it. Ch
I have NA turned off. If the RT can't or won't play what I ask,and I rarely go to 'Jazz' chords, I try a few alternatives.

What I find curious however is when I've finished entering a series of quite 'normal' chords I often get a yellow box come up saying X percentage are fancy chords and consider NA.
If I've purposely turned it off in Options,why flag it?
Bests
Ian


Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was!
BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10

ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp
SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB-
http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel
Videos-
https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created a video to help you learn more about the Volume Automation options in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows.

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Volume Automation

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#volume-automation

Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®

We've created this short video to explain Audio Input Monitoring within Band-in-a-Box® 2024, and included some tips & troubleshooting details too!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024: Audio Input Monitoring

3:17: Tips
5:10: Troubleshooting

www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024full/chapter11.htm#audio-input-monitoring

Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!

We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!

Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.

You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.

See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.

Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®

New with the DAW Plugin Version 6.0, released with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows: the Reaper® Panel!

This new panel offers built-in specific support for the Reaper® DAW API allowing direct transfer of Band-in-a-Box® files to/from Reaper® tracks!

When you run the Plugin from Reaper®, there is a panel to set the following options:
-BB Track(s) to send: This allows you to select the Plugin tracks that will be sent Reaper.
-Destination Reaper Track: This lets you select the destination Reaper track to receive media content from the Plugin.
-At Bar: You can select a bar in Reaper where the Plugin tracks should be placed.
-Start Below Selected Track: This allows you to place the Plugin tracks below the destination Reaper track.
-Overwrite Reaper Track: You can overwrite previous content on the destination Reaper track.
-Move to Project Folder: With this option, you can move the Plugin tracks to the Reaper project folder.
-Send Reaper Instructions Enable this option to send the Reaper Instructions instead of rendering audio tracks, which is faster.
-Render Audio & Instructions: Enable this option to generate audio files and the Reaper instructions.
-Send Tracks After Generating: This allows the Plugin to automatically send tracks to Reaper after generating.
-Send Audio for MIDI Track: Enable this option to send rendered audio for MIDI tracks.
-Send RealCharts with Audio: If this option is enabled, Enable this option to send RealCharts with audio.

Check out this video highlighting the new Reaper®-specific features: Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Video

The new Band-in-a-Box VST DAW Plugin Verion 6 adds over 20 new features!

Watch the new features video to learn more: Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2024 - DAW Plugin Version 6 New Features

We also list these new features at www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.plugin.htm.

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,391
Posts732,468
Members38,440
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
Ernest J, Izzy, BenChaz, Csofi, mmpartee
38,439 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 195
Al-David 124
DC Ron 113
dcuny 87
rsdean 83
Today's Birthdays
CeeDee, SethMould
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5