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#622616 - 11/10/20 02:17 PM [User Showcase] No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals)
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No Me Without You

I wrote the same "liner notes" for "On Their Side" and the so this would probably be the A or B side of the "single" as the same applies to this rock ballad.

Bud & Janice kindly agreed to collaborate on a new tune.
I sent Janice Leon's lyrics and a set of chords.
Janice came up with melody and phrasing.


Janice - Lead vocal & backing vocals & arrangement (including the lovely melody)
Leon - Lyrics
Bud - Mixing advice, sound processing & recording engineer
Me - Guitars & arrangement

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No Me Without You

There is no spring without the rain
Some say there is no gain without a little pain
There is no sunshine without the sun
If you’d never lost, how would you know that you had won?
There is no green without yellow and blue
There is no me without you

There is no gravity unless the world is spinning
When the shooting starts well no one is really winning
There is no fire unless something is burning
One step is the starting point of every journey
There are some offers that you just can’t refuse
There is no me without you

Some things just naturally go together
Some combinations cannot be untethered
One and one will always add up to two
Never ever be no me without you

Won’t hear no music without vibration
Every little triumph deserves a celebration
Every act of kindness is worth its weight in gold
When I’m with you I’m not afraid of growing old
There is no tale so tall it could not be true
There is no me without you

There is no tide without the moon
Some stories finish way too soon
Some rivers never get to flow down to the sea
Some acorns never get to be an old oak tree
Life is no fairy tale and wishes don’t come true
There is no me without you

Some things just naturally go together
Some combinations cannot be untethered
One and one will always add up to two
Never ever be no me without you

There is no tide without the moon
Some stories finish way, way too soon
Some rivers never get to flow down to the sea
Some acorns never get to be an old oak tree
Life’s no fairy tale but some wishes do come true
There is no me without you

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#622652 - 11/10/20 06:57 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Loved this tune Peter, Janice and Bud and Leon. Very cool lyric. Awesome vocal. Loved the melody to the song. Very upbeat and happy.

Peter your guitar break was perfect. Loved the way the vocal was mixed. Well done..

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#622672 - 11/11/20 03:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Good song!

Excellent write, Leon, and great playing, Peter.

Nice arrangement too, I liked the modulation.

And of course Janice sounds awesome as she always does wink

Really good you four, enjoyed!

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#622713 - 11/11/20 10:01 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Leon, Peter, Janice, Bud...

A strong write. One of your best, Leon. Very commercial.
And a very commercial melody, Janice (one of your best, too, I think).
An excellent BAND. A "radio sound". (one of my favorites from the group - y'all might need to come up with a band name).
And to top it off...might be my favorite Peter guitar work - also has "commercial appeal".

This should be the first single from the album.

Excellent listen.

fj

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#622714 - 11/11/20 10:03 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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I really admire Leon's songwriting talent, once again simple but deeply touching lyrics, I'm sold for lines like "Some stories finish way, way too soon" and "Some acorns never get to be an old oak tree". And when the story is put to the light pop-rock mold, my favorite genre, I cannot stop listening... modulation and slow down in the end are extra cherries.

Peter's soloing is heartbreakingly beautiful, perfect match for the song. Janice's melody is excellent and her singing remind me strongly of Chrissie Hynde and songs like Back On The Chain Gang and Don't Get Me Wrong.

The mix is so balanced and polished that I surely can see all my flaws reflecting from it. I very rarely repost anything on SoundCloud, but you have once again made me do it, congratulations!

Janne


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#622740 - 11/11/20 02:15 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Loved this tune Peter, Janice and Bud and Leon. Very cool lyric. Awesome vocal. Loved the melody to the song. Very upbeat and happy.

Peter your guitar break was perfect. Loved the way the vocal was mixed. Well done..


Scott
Thanks for that excellent review, we all appreciate your comments.

Peter

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#622744 - 11/11/20 03:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Janice's vocals really stand out here, and the lyrics are really well written and thought out. "Won’t hear no music without vibration, Every little triumph deserves a celebration, Every act of kindness is worth its weight in gold, When I’m with you I’m not afraid of growing old" is definitely my favourite part. Overall a really awesome arrangement. Thanks for sharing!
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#622819 - 11/12/20 05:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Loved this tune Peter, Janice and Bud and Leon. Very cool lyric. Awesome vocal. Loved the melody to the song. Very upbeat and happy.

Peter your guitar break was perfect. Loved the way the vocal was mixed. Well done..


Thanks Scott!

Janice
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#622845 - 11/12/20 08:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Hello PeterF,

Composition really well built. The vocals are splendid and the lyrics excellent. The very careful arrangement follows a series of pleasant chords. The solo of the guitar very rich in variation. I had a great time listening to your composition. Well done

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#622864 - 11/12/20 11:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude

Good song!

Excellent write, Leon, and great playing, Peter.

Nice arrangement too, I liked the modulation.

And of course Janice sounds awesome as she always does wink

Really good you four, enjoyed!


Thanks Dave appreciate the review.

Peter

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#622898 - 11/12/20 03:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Great song with a great melody sung by a great voice. Can't ask for more than that. Excellent work, all!
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#622910 - 11/12/20 04:24 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Lovely song performed marvelously by all involved! Janice always boosts a song's appeal when she adds her touch. Loved the playing and effects used on the guitar Peter! Take care, T
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#622918 - 11/12/20 05:10 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Super collaboration!

Well written and performed by all.

You guys rock!!!

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#622941 - 11/12/20 09:53 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Peter, Leon, Bud and Janice,

Sweet collaboration here. The write is really strong and great production work throughout. Love that guitar solo. Got nothing to add here but my admiration for a song well done!
Excellent work folks!!

All my best,

Deej

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#622961 - 11/13/20 05:31 AM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude

Good song!

Excellent write, Leon, and great playing, Peter.

Nice arrangement too, I liked the modulation.

And of course Janice sounds awesome as she always does wink

Really good you four, enjoyed!


Thanks Dave! They handed me a real gem that so well describes mine and Bud’s life together!

Janice
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#623037 - 11/13/20 12:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Cool. I jumped right in and pushed play when I saw your name, Peter. Then I heard one of my favorite singers. Man, I love the collabs you guys do. Every piece of this masterpiece rings professional. Great job, Peter, Janice & Bud!!!
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#623040 - 11/13/20 01:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Whenever you three do a collaboration I know that I am in for some mighty fine ear candy and WOW this is so sweet!

Everything is perfect here. If I didn't know better I would swear this was done in a professional studio, it is that good!

Outstanding work!
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#623071 - 11/13/20 03:42 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Leon, Peter, Janice, Bud...

A strong write. One of your best, Leon. Very commercial.
And a very commercial melody, Janice (one of your best, too, I think).
An excellent BAND. A "radio sound". (one of my favorites from the group - y'all might need to come up with a band name).
And to top it off...might be my favorite Peter guitar work - also has "commercial appeal".

This should be the first single from the album.

Excellent listen.

fj


I agree with all that!!! I love this kind of philosophical and yet fun lyric!! This is just a fun, feel good song that also has depth.....something for everyone, and so well sung and played!! BRAVO!!!!! Take care. Greg

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#623080 - 11/13/20 04:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: PeterF]
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Nicely done! I like how Leon extended the conceit throughout the song. Feel good all the way. Musically, this is so appealing and right in my listening alley, so to speak. Musicianship, singing, production, all top notch.

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#623082 - 11/13/20 05:02 PM [User Showcase] Re: No Me Without You (Featuring Janice on vocals) [Re: floyd jane]
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Originally Posted By: floyd jane
Leon, Peter, Janice, Bud...

A strong write. One of your best, Leon. Very commercial.
And a very commercial melody, Janice (one of your best, too, I think).
An excellent BAND. A "radio sound". (one of my favorites from the group - y'all might need to come up with a band name).
And to top it off...might be my favorite Peter guitar work - also has "commercial appeal".

This should be the first single from the album.

Excellent listen.

fj


floyd

All of us at the unnamed group appreciate those encouraging comments.
Thanks a lot.

Peter

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