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In case you missed it in all the hoopla over BiaB .. RB 2021 is available with BiaB Psst .. /I heard it's 64 bit now  https://www.pgmusic.com/rbwin.htm
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.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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i hope the 32 bit version is still available - my edirol hypercnavas is 32 bit i believe
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It does include the 2020 32 bit version, which implies it will be 64 bit going forward.
If HyperCanvas is VST then JBridge should handle it.
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Cool! I've kinda put music on the back burner, and was wondering about whether to buy BIAB 2021, but getting a 64 bit version of RB is worth it! I guess that means when they get around to putting Power Tracks 2021 up for sale, it will also be 64 bit
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For those of us who still have XP on a separate drive, 64 bit is not good news.
Fortunately I also run BB/RB on Win10.
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Windows XP has been at end of life since 2014 (six and a half years ago), so to me it doesn't make a lot of sense to keep supporting an unsupported operating system long after it died. RealBand (at least for me) runs great on Windows 10 (even though I'm on a 10 year old computer). While there are a few additional tweaks, the 64-bit version is the biggest news, but it the package actually still comes with the 2020 version in 32-bit also (most of what is in 2021 64-bit is actually in 2020 build 5).
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Jford wrote;
but it the package actually still comes with the 2020 version in 32-bit also (most of what is in 2021 64-bit is actually in 2020 build 5).
I installed 2021 earlier today and didn't come across this.
I ask because most of my midi based parts use the 32-bit Coyote and I would rather not have to re-balance everything to a different instrument set.
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I think you have to create the shortcut yourself.
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From what I have seen so far 64 bit RB is more stable and smoother than ever.
Last edited by Rob Helms; 11/29/20 05:43 PM.
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Jford wrote;
but it the package actually still comes with the 2020 version in 32-bit also (most of what is in 2021 64-bit is actually in 2020 build 5).
I installed 2021 earlier today and didn't come across this.
I ask because most of my midi based parts use the 32-bit Coyote and I would rather not have to re-balance everything to a different instrument set.
The RealBand 2021 version is 64-bit only. However, if you previously had RealBand 2020, you can still use it (i.e. even if you upgraded to Band-in-a-Box 2021). Regarding the Coyote, it is 64-bit as well, and the instruments should sound exactly the same as far as I know...
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I ask because most of my midi based parts use the 32-bit Coyote and I would rather not have to re-balance everything to a different instrument set.
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By Coyote did you mean the Coyote WT (which should still just work) Or the Coyote Forte, which indeed would become an issue, not the patch mapping, but the actual sounds being used.
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Sorry, I should have been clearer, I was referring to the 32-bit Coyote Forte.
Andrew, The sounds are quite different, but as you suggested, I discovered I am still able to use my 32-bit RB, so problem solved.
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Andrew, I mentioned BIAB 2020 32-bit because Jeff said it was included with 2021 64-bit when I asked about 32-bit.
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as posted elsewhere i have an elderly retail boxed version of the edirol hypercanvas (TTS1 under another name). i mentioned it above. my version includes the dxi and vst versions. the vst version which i have just installed seems to run fine in BIAB 2020 64 bit using jbridge.
so 64 bit RB looks like it will be a simple step up. however i won't be upgrading until the usual stream of patches slows down later in december.
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The 32-bit version is not included at all with 2021, even an old 2020 version. What's happened is that you already had 2020 installed, and as Realband 2021 64-bit uses a different file name it left the 2020 32-bit still there.
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so unless we use 64 bit, the 32 bit version of RB will never change from now on?
there must come a time when functionality falls off compared to the 64 bit version.
does anyone know what 64 bit RB 2021 does that 32 bit 2020 doesn't?
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The PG Music and DX plugins included with 64 bit Band-in-a-Box and RealBand differs slightly from their 32 bit counterparts. I first posted the difference and included screen shots when 64 bit BiaB was released but I don't remember the difference now.
I believe the Antares provided harmonizer plugin is 32 bit only.
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Most beta testers noticed it was faster and more stable than previous.
Obviously it would also allow access to more RAM, which is always good.
Caveat/tradeoff - 32 bit DXi does not bridge with JBridge. So things like Coyote Forte will not load.
Neither will my old favorite OBTune ..
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isn't it true that in 32 bit apps everything has to fit into 4 gigs of ram? whereas with 64 bit the rest of your ram is accessible? If so, in 64 bit RB we should be able to use more and bigger plugins without crashing the system
Or not.
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beat ya by 4 minutes
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