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#633962 - 01/02/21 10:49 AM [RealBand] Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox
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Hello all,

I am not a frequent user of Realband yet I installed the here announced new version.
having started the app I went straight to play from the Jukebox and the app crashes/quits without an error protocol.
Before it show a yellow post-it, that it tried to open some midi file from an non existing folder (where does that come from?). This will probably be the reason for realband to close without further ado.
I tried to find the setting, where this file path is stored, but did not find it.

this behaviour is very poor. Realizing there is some sort of mismatch and closing without asking the user. After that I have to confirm all settings and pathes of Realband again in boot up procedure.
:-(

Unhappy apps don´t behave....

have a good year 2021!

Cheeers
Stefan
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#634173 - 01/03/21 01:56 PM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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Hi Stefan,

you say you don't use RB often, so perhaps a few questions are in order .

1) Have you used the jukebox feature successfully in a previous version?

2) jukebox typically expects you to create a folder of songs that will be played in order, much like the records in a jukebox. In order to test whether your problem originates with RealBand or with the music file, create a directory and put a few MP3s in it. They'll load quickly and help us see if RB works.

3)from RB open the Jukebox, but don't try to play it yet

4) click [ADD FOLDER TO PLAY LIST]

5) navigate to the folder you created with MP3s in it. Select it.

6) the play list in Jukebox should now display the list of files in that directory.

7) press [START] the first song in the list should load and start playing.

8) press [>] and the next song in the list should load and start playing.

9) now that we know that RB/Jukebox works, replace the MP3s in the directory with your own SEQ or other media files. At this point, the only thing that should make jukebox fail is if the sequence itself contains a path to a file that has been moved. If that's the case, you need to fix the sequence.

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#634371 - 01/04/21 11:17 AM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Pat Marr]
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Hello Pat,

thx for replying. Here my answers.

1) no, I used more the Biab Jukebox but wanted to try it in Realband now.

2) I have no opportunity to set a folder from which the songs shall be drawn.
For some reason Realband knows of an old, not existing folder, which is enough to quit without further ado. Not letting me tryout any other thing. At restart it suggest to take factory defaults to which I agree. I can not change anything significant to avoid this behaviour :-(

3) open jukebox, RB program disappears...
There is no such thing as starting jukebox without playing something - at least that´s how it looks to me.

4) I don´t get there where you describe.

5) like point 4)

6, 7, 8, 9) like point 4) I don´t get there


I looked in the Windows registry to find a place, where realband might fetch this "old" information from without success though.

I also installed the news build 3 for RB 2021. No change.

Any more ideas?

have a good new year 2021 all!

Thanks Pat
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#634496 - 01/04/21 11:38 PM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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That doesn't happen here. There might be a config file that tells jukebox where to look for its directory of songs. It appears to default to the RealBand root folder. Look for a file in the Realband folder named $SessionJUK, looks like its the file that contains a location of your folder containing songs for the jukebox.

0) if you find this file, delete it and restart RB. If we're lucky that might fix the problem.

1) if you don't find one, create a text file by that name and copy paste this text into it:

PTJUK100C:\RealBand\jukebox songs\song1.mp3;C:\RealBand\jukebox songs\song2.mp3


2) replace "song1" and "song2" with the name of actual songs

3) create a folder named C:\RealBand\jukebox songs

4) put the songs in this folder named exactly as shown in the $SessionJUK file

hopefully when you start RB next time, it will see the file and stop being redirected somewhere else.
If this doesn't work, then somebody above my pay grade will have to weigh in.

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#634576 - 01/05/21 11:26 AM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Pat Marr]
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Hey Pat,

deleting the $SessionJUK file did the trick. I was able to pick new folders and it worked then.
Thanks a lot!!!

Cheers
Stefan
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#634612 - 01/05/21 04:29 PM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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awesome! Thanks for letting me know it worked!
I hope you enjoy using Jukebox and RealBand as much as I do.

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#634900 - 01/07/21 11:21 AM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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How are you using it Pat?

Or should I open a new post for that or can we exchange on email post separately?

I don´t know what is right.....

Cheers Stefan
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#634919 - 01/07/21 12:40 PM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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Originally Posted By: Museeker
How are you using it Pat?

Cheers Stefan


I use RealBand to create songs for live performances, then I have another copy of Realband on a laptop for live or streamed online performances. At first I used Jukebox to serve up the next song, but overtime I switched to a 3 pedal USB device that can be programmed to send keystrokes to the computer. I programmed the pedals to send the following keystrokes:

[space] which starts or stops playing whatever song is loaded
[ctrl-P]could also be used to play the current song from the beginning

[shift-F8] which loads the next song in the folder

[F4] which saves the song if I make any changes

I put the lyrics and chords on the COMMENTS window, because I can easily copy/paste an entire song to this window when creating my songs, and you can choose whether to have the comments page load automatically with the song.

I put the chords in line with the lyrics like this:
Quote:
(Gmaj7) these are lyrics (Cmaj7) these are more lyrics

because if you put the chords above the lyrics, as is common in many chord sheets, changing the font will mess up your chord positions.
Putting them inline with the lyrics is failproof.
Quote:
doing this makes the chord sheets much harder to maintain:
Gmaj7_____________Cmaj7
These are lyrics______These are more lyrics



here's a link to the USB pedal I use:
USB FOOTSWITCH

Jukebox also works with keystrokes to stop , start and play next song, and you can use the same footswitch with Jukebox. SOmehow I ended up using only RB, and that works too, if you only need a few controls.


in order to arrange my play list so shift F8 calls up the song I want next, I rename my songs with numbers in the order I want to play them. For example:

01_song one.seq
02_song two.seq
03_ song three.seq

shift F8 grabs songs in alphanumeric order, with numbers being selected first.

Hope this is useful


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#635118 - 01/08/21 10:46 AM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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That was very helpful Pat. Thanks a lot.

I am trying to get sorted with my ambitions to make music and building a repertoire. Unluckily I tried since around 30 years to get more productive, but due to verious reasons, lastly work, I made not to much progress. Now I make an effort to get me nearer to my musical goals.

Would you be able to show me your setup one day via skype?

Thanks for all!

Cheers Stefan
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#635297 - 01/09/21 07:07 AM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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Originally Posted By: Museeker
That was very helpful Pat. Thanks a lot.

I am trying to get sorted with my ambitions to make music and building a repertoire. Unluckily I tried since around 30 years to get more productive, but due to verious reasons, lastly work, I made not to much progress. Now I make an effort to get me nearer to my musical goals.

Would you be able to show me your setup one day via skype?

Thanks for all!

Cheers Stefan

Stefan,
I'm not very proficient with skype, but I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you might have

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#635516 - 01/10/21 08:24 AM [RealBand] Re: Realband quits when clicking on Jukebox [Re: Museeker]
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Hello Pat,

is there a way to have direct contact (some sort of messaging) via this forum? As not to chat around different topics in one thread?
Than I probably would prefer that for a more verbose exchange of ideas, usages, workarounds etc....

Cheers Stefan
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