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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Nov 2019
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Hi All,
Longtime user of BIAB. Go back to the DOS version in the 90s.
I usually update every 4-5 years depending on the new features added.
I currently run BIAB 2016 UltraPak, so I'm due.
Been checking in on the forum throughout December and January, but I'm hesitant to upgrade, as I'm reading lots of posts about issues with the new BIAB 2021.
So has the latest patch stabilized things? I know PG Music releases patches throughout the year and I know that the first version in December is always a work in progress.
But I just read some postings on the BIAB VST plugin forum, and the consensus seems the DAW plugin is better, but still not complete - and that's @two years old now.
I really don't want to wait a year for full, bug-free functionality of BIAB 2021.
So what say you, the experts?
Is it worth upgrading from BIAB 2016 to 2021?
I use the program to layout the instrumental parts/arrangement for my original songs, then import the midi files/Real Tracks into my DAW where I add vocals, mix, and season to taste.
Thanks, Danny V.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 18,255
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I believe that it's stable enough to be OK to upgrade to, and remember, there will be patches being progressively released so if you encounter issues, these will hopefully be resolved.
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Aug 2011
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Things have stabilized a lot since the initial 2021 release. While I'm still learning to use some of the features new for this year the Band-in-a-Box program is pretty stable. I'm really liking the new audio engine and the new time and pitch stretching algorithm make a noticeable difference
I believe you'll find the sum of all the updates since 2016 to be worth your time and money.
Sale ends January 15. If you don't agree the update is worthwhile there is the no questions asked 30 day money back guarantee.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1109) RB (Build 3) Ultra+ PAK Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Jul 2000
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I recommend upgrading while the sale is in effect - one more day. I cannot comment about the plug-in except to say I don’t hear much anymore about how it’s missing critical things.
As for the main program, you will first notice graphical changes, so remember Ctrl+T.
We recently had a large number of patches of some annoying things, but 2021 has always been stable.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Jun 2012
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Yes, agreed also. If you are considering updating, take advantage of the discounted pricing while it lasts (last day...)
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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I guess it depends on how you use the program. I use the feature to change styles on a bar extensively and that feature was working fine in 2020 but broken in 2021. So I have reverted to 2020 and hope they fix this some day so I can use what I paid for.
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Dec 2007
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Same, but i must say their support crew is somehow proven to be very good and reliable ... For my use BIAB works OK, only Realband needs some Real Fixes LoL.
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Speaking for myself, BIAB 2021 is very stable and well worth the price... I know of no other software program that can do what BIAB does, and it seems to be improving steadily.
Bandcamp Soundcloud Win-11; BiaB-2024-latest Beta; Cakewalk; Melodyne-5; Scaler 2; NI Komplete: Focusrite Scarlett 18i20
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Works excellent for me. There have been multiple updates very quickly so most glitches remedied stat.
Mike
Focusrite 2i2 2nd Gen Windows 10 pro 1709 16299.125 Intel core i7 6700k CPU @ 4.00GHz 4.01 GHz 16 gig memory BIAB UltraPak version is 2023 (Latest) Cubase pro 9
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: Dec 2011
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I agree with all the others, upgrade now to save some money in the long run. Overall, the program has been improved quite a bit and with the latest updates is quite stable and useful.
The issues that are still on-going are digging further down deeper into areas that a general user may not ever see or use....at least for me.
Jeff
Win11, Intel i7 7700K 4.2Ghz, 32Gb RAM, 2x1Tb HD, 500Gb NVMe, BIAB/RB 2024, MOTU 828MK3 audio, MOTU Midi Express, Yamaha Montage 7, DX7II, TX802, Motif XS Rack, Roland Fantom XR Rack, Oberheim Matrix 1000, VoiceLive3 Extreme, Kontakt 6, SampleTank 4.3
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!
We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!
Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.
You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.
See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.
Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®
New with the DAW Plugin Version 6.0, released with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows: the Reaper® Panel!
This new panel offers built-in specific support for the Reaper® DAW API allowing direct transfer of Band-in-a-Box® files to/from Reaper® tracks!
When you run the Plugin from Reaper®, there is a panel to set the following options:
-BB Track(s) to send: This allows you to select the Plugin tracks that will be sent Reaper.
-Destination Reaper Track: This lets you select the destination Reaper track to receive media content from the Plugin.
-At Bar: You can select a bar in Reaper where the Plugin tracks should be placed.
-Start Below Selected Track: This allows you to place the Plugin tracks below the destination Reaper track.
-Overwrite Reaper Track: You can overwrite previous content on the destination Reaper track.
-Move to Project Folder: With this option, you can move the Plugin tracks to the Reaper project folder.
-Send Reaper Instructions Enable this option to send the Reaper Instructions instead of rendering audio tracks, which is faster.
-Render Audio & Instructions: Enable this option to generate audio files and the Reaper instructions.
-Send Tracks After Generating: This allows the Plugin to automatically send tracks to Reaper after generating.
-Send Audio for MIDI Track: Enable this option to send rendered audio for MIDI tracks.
-Send RealCharts with Audio: If this option is enabled, Enable this option to send RealCharts with audio.
Check out this video highlighting the new Reaper®-specific features: Band-in-a-Box® DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Specifically for Reaper®
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 DAW Plugin Version 6: New Features Video
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