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The support section provides us with a list of video's to learn BIAB. They are grouped into beginner, Intermediate, and advanced. The problem is that they don't follow any sensible order for one to progress through them in a sensible manner. It would be very helpful to have a list that would lead us through the list so we can learn the next best thing needed to better use the program.
Dell 610 dual Monitor, win 7-10, Sonar Plat, ProTools 10 & 11, Reaper 4, BIAB/real Band 2022, Easy Drummer, Superior Drummer, Kontact Essentials, Personnel Orchestra, Korg Legacy Analog & Digital
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Earl Kirby, The best introductory, how to use Band-in-a-Box, video series I've seen is offered by Groove3.com. They have a +++ 2015 Band-in-a-Box for Windows +++ and a +++ 2014 Band-in-a-Box for Mac +++. Groove 3 offers several payment options. Follow the links to learn more about the videos. PG Music also offers the videos +++ HERE +++ and +++ HERE +++PG Music has created so many videos and the program changes just frequent enough to make preparing a list of how to videos in any other would be quite a challenge. Several users have posted getting started videos on YouTube. Truthfully I would likely start with a YouTube search as it would include videos by PG Music and others. +++ The Guitar Band Tutorials +++ offers pdf, videos, backing tracks made with RealTracks for free and song files for purchase.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
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Yes Jim, the Groove3 video is quite good for an introduction. And yes PG has created a large # of videos. I guess I'm spoiled by Reapers list of videos by kenny Goia. They have managed to create a large variety of videos but they have also managed to list them in easy to follow lists. It would seem that someone that is VERY knowledgeable a bout BIAB could simply sort out a list of the existing video's and let the rest of us know the simplest way to go through them and become experts themselves.
Dell 610 dual Monitor, win 7-10, Sonar Plat, ProTools 10 & 11, Reaper 4, BIAB/real Band 2022, Easy Drummer, Superior Drummer, Kontact Essentials, Personnel Orchestra, Korg Legacy Analog & Digital
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Earl,
I've seen numerous people describe the Reaper videos by Kenny Goia as the perfect template to follow to build a video tutorial series for learning a DAW. Similarly there are a few video tutorial series for my DAW of choice, Cakewalk by BandLab, that follow a logical progression for learning that DAW.
The biggest question for a video series about Band-in-a-Box is what is important for the video series audience to know? Does the video series creator concentrate on using the chord sheet, the piano roll view, RealTracks, midi, recording audio, using the audio chord wizard, creating a melody, The Conductor, The Jukebox, importing midi songs, etc. Look through the forum and you'll see all of these things and more are discussed in detail.
How much detail should be provided in each segment? How long is too long for each segment? My fear is that by the time a video series has a good outline, the program will be changed enough the outline would have to be revised.
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1111) RB (5) Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk by BandLab (CbB) - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
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+1 There are many solid videos available, however I agree that some kind of "sensible order for one to progress through them in a sensible manner." is needed. One way I imagine it can be done is a step by step tutorials of actual song making. Explaining and auditioning items on the way. 3 songs... but not trying to throw a bunch of chords to make them "sound" like a song, but actually reverse engineer already made song. Intro, chorus, verse and all that good stuff. Efficient workflow is the key! 1)Basic tune - 10 minute video. 2)Intermediate tune - 15-30 minute video. 3)Advance tune - 45-60 mins. Perhaps with links within a video to already created tutorial content, if one wants to expand the knowledge on particular topic. ---- There is a one item that I think should be waited out for  Is when Utility tracks gain more controls as legacy tracks.... One of my biggest challenges with BIAB was and still is in a way, are the actual variation for specific parts. Limit is, that there were not enough tracks to do them on the fly (yes, there are workarounds, Hi Charlie)...but they are very counter intuitive, take long time and are not fluid as the whole concept of composing/arranging with BIAB. With Utility tracks, it got much better, but not there yet. To me these Utility tracks, when they become fully flexible, are the missing piece of the puzzle to do most of composition work, trying out new things (not losing others) without leaving BIAB. Ok, enough of my blabbering. Couple of years back I requested a workflow video and I believe Kent done a decent job on it. The only thing I didn't like is that he used "classic" (colorful) interface instead of minimalistic, but still it should totally work as Introduction to making a song in BIAB - Intermediate. If interested, here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo9sben5x1M&feature=youtu.be
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Here's an older series that is a demonstration how one user builds a song starting in BIAB and moving the song into RB for a rough mix and adding and building tracks before finishing the song in Reaper. Interesting series with some good tips. Band in a Box Song Series from YouTube
BIAB Ultra Pak+ 2024:RB 2024, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
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Earl, Have you signed up for this? Could be quite beneficial.
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
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Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!
The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!
The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245
The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option
Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
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