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EVERYTHING I try to do with Real Band ends up being some level of major surgery and college course work.
All I want to do is send clock to my Roland synth and Korg drum machine. I went from MIDI Out on the Focusrite to the Roland MIDI in. I set the clock source on the Roland to be "from external MIDI". I set the MIDI channel to 4 to avoid everything else. I made sure to check the port (3 is assigned in the MIDI setup screen) in the track (track 5) that is set to MIDI to make sure it is port 3. Still no clock going out.
After 45 anxious minutes and many combinations of clicking things on and off, the one that did it was "Send Realtime Messages." I don't even need "Send MIDI Clock Info" selected. It works with just that one box selected.
My main question. What would I have had to look for in the help files to find this seemingly simple thing? There was nothing at all in the 300 page manual I have from whatever year.
So, my MIDI guru types, who makes a device that sits on the desk and sends MIDI clock to drive sequencers and drum machines, the output of which would be recorded into RB, and allows me to play other instruments into RB?
AND, can we yet record more than one track at a time? With an interface set to stereo with discreet left and right in and out (to speakers), it seems like I should be able to record on track 1 and 2 through 2 different inputs, no? If I assign the tracks correctly? I have never tried that. Since the interface connects via USB, I don't know how I's make that happen.
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From what I understand, all doable.
First; clock data is not a 'per channel' thing in MIDI, it happens or it doesn't. That's why the Send Realtime Messages was so important.
Note there are various other settings in that same window you may prefer enabled or not, depending on workflow. Like Zero Controllers, which resets controller values on play, or Send most Recent ..
If your external sequencer supports it the SPP setting is for Song Position Pointer (I believe) which some sequencers need to know where you reset the cursor to when you hit play (if syncing multiple sequencers).
The multiple tracks question seems doable too.
May be as simple as enabling inputs 1/2 to record, and making sure the target track in RB is a MONO track (so it records one side, and RB puts the other side on the next available blank track).
Again, this has even more options involved, like 'Input channel for MONO tracks' (or close) in audio prefs; you'll want to make sure it is set to L&R so RB behaves as above and records both sides as their own MONO track.
Once set, you can enable as many inputs as available on the interface and record each to its own track.
If you were describing trying to record the Left channel from one interface and the Right from another, I don't think you can do that.
The clocks between the two would make this a bad idea/tough solution type situation.
I have recorded L/R from one interface, and L/R from another but even that experiment showed me how the clocks between the two devices differed and over linear time in a 'take' it showed.
So I stopped doing that.
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That response panel was more informative than the entire time I dug through the manuals last night.
The song pointer I figured out by experimentation, when, as the name of the thing states, I was able to start and stop the sequencer in mid measure. I had to slow it way down to play with it, because something playing at 104 or 108 is hard to sop on beat 3. But I slowed it down and tested it and it works.
What I would like to do it play the Roland sequencer into the left channel and the Korg drum machine into the right, because if the sequence plays in the key of X, and I want it in the key or Y, I can just transpose the track rather than reprogramming the sequencer. If I recorded the summed output of the 2 instruments, it is what it is and I can't change the sugar or the flower once they are mixed into the cookie batter.
I used a lot of MIDI back in the day but just to control what devices played from what controllers, and the MX-8 patching unit did all of that once I programmed it. Everything stayed on the same MIDI channel and it just changed controller and patch. I loved that box! With 3 controllers and 3 rack mounted sound sources, that box paid for itself quickly!!
So tomorrow, I will run the Roland box into the interface channel left and the Korg into the interface channel right, make sure the interface is set to stereo to pass individual left and right content, and see if I can record on track 1 and track 2 simultaneously.
After I print out your reply for a reference!! Thanks.
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Sounds like you 'got it'.
As long as the same interface is recording L/R from different sound sources, this should work.
(this assumes you have the necessary clock going to both sources physically, if needed)
At first these settings threw me in RB/PT, but once I realized 'why' they did it this way, I have enjoyed the flexibility ever since. Being a computer guy I think you will too, eventually
Last edited by rharv; 02/09/21 01:55 PM.
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