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Who is this guitarist? #641535 02/11/21 08:13 AM Off-Topic
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 730 Florida etcjoe OP Journeyman
OP etcjoe Journeyman Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 730 Florida	In the movie White Christmas, during a couple of scenes and most specifically the cast party scene there is a guitarist there. Watching him closely shows he does know how to play guitar, even though he is very likely miming to background tracks as they did in those days and still do today. Anybody know who he is? Maybe just a staff musician for the studio at the time but I thought someone would know. I have searched the internet but so far have found no clues. Picture here. My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.

Re: Who is this guitarist? etcjoe #641562 02/11/21 10:25 AM Off-Topic
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 11,384 Wauconda	Maybe just a walkon for the photo, but otherwise you should be able to find him here. I see the bass player identified by no Guitarist? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047673/fullcredits White Christmas (1954) Poster White Christmas (1954) Full Cast & Crew See agents for this cast & crew on IMDbPro Directed by Michael Curtiz Writing Credits Norman Krasna ... (written for the screen by) & Norman Panama ... (written for the screen by) & Melvin Frank ... (written for the screen by)Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Bing Crosby Bing Crosby ... Bob Wallace Danny Kaye Danny Kaye ... Phil Davis Rosemary Clooney Rosemary Clooney ... Betty Haynes Vera-Ellen Vera-Ellen ... Judy Haynes (as Vera Ellen) Dean Jagger Dean Jagger ... Major General Thomas F. Waverly Mary Wickes Mary Wickes ... Emma Allen John Brascia John Brascia ... John Anne Whitfield Anne Whitfield ... Susan Waverly Rest of cast listed alphabetically: Bea Allen Bea Allen ... Dancer (uncredited) Leon Alton Leon Alton ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Al Bain Al Bain ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Frank Baker Frank Baker ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Benjie Bancroft Benjie Bancroft ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Joan Bayley Joan Bayley ... Dancer (uncredited) Brandon Beach Brandon Beach ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Mae Bruce Mae Bruce ... Lady in Depot (uncredited) Tony Butala Tony Butala ... Child Dancer (uncredited) Boyd Cabeen Boyd Cabeen ... Soldier (uncredited) Glen Cargyle Glen Cargyle ... Jeep Driver (uncredited) Albert Cavens Albert Cavens ... Soldier (uncredited) Evelyn Ceder Evelyn Ceder ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) George Chakiris George Chakiris ... Dancer at the Carousel Club (uncredited) Barrie Chase Barrie Chase ... Doris Lenz (uncredited) Les Clark Les Clark ... Dancer (uncredited) Bud Cokes Bud Cokes ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Lorinne Crawford Lorinne Crawford ... Rita (uncredited) Paul Cristo Paul Cristo ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Robert Crosson Robert Crosson ... Albert (uncredited) Marcel De la Brosse Marcel De la Brosse ... Carousel Club's Maitre d' (uncredited) Sayre Dearing Sayre Dearing ... Ex-Staff Officer (uncredited) Mike Donovan Mike Donovan ... 2nd Conductor (uncredited) Ken DuMain Ken DuMain ... Soldier (uncredited) Luigi Faccuito Luigi Faccuito ... Dancer (uncredited) Franklyn Farnum Franklyn Farnum ... Club Patron (uncredited) Ernie Flatt Ernie Flatt ... Dancer (uncredited) Bess Flowers Bess Flowers ... Club Patron (uncredited) George Ford George Ford ... Club Patron (uncredited) Rudy Germane Rudy Germane ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Kenneth Gibson Kenneth Gibson ... Club Patron (uncredited) James Gonzalez James Gonzalez ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Gavin Gordon Gavin Gordon ... General Harold G. Carlton (uncredited) Johnny Grant Johnny Grant ... Ed Harrison (uncredited) Marion Gray Marion Gray ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Percy Helton Percy Helton ... Train Conductor (uncredited) Chuck Hicks Chuck Hicks ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Michael Jeffers Michael Jeffers ... Stagehand (uncredited) I. Stanford Jolley I. Stanford Jolley ... Station Master (uncredited) Richard Keene Richard Keene ... Carousel Club's Stage Manager (uncredited) Kenner G. Kemp Kenner G. Kemp ... Ex-Soldier (uncredited) Perk Lazelle Perk Lazelle ... Club Patron (uncredited) King Lockwood King Lockwood ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Leota Lorraine Leota Lorraine ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Herb Lurie Herb Lurie ... Dancer (uncredited) Vivian Mason Vivian Mason ... Rehearsal Blonde (uncredited) Peggy McKim Peggy McKim ... Child Dancer (uncredited) William Meader William Meader ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Hans Moebus Hans Moebus ... Club Patron (uncredited) Leighton Noble Leighton Noble ... Bandleader (uncredited) Barry Norton Barry Norton ... Carousel Club Diner (uncredited) Roy Palmer Roy Palmer ... Dancer (uncredited) James Parnell James Parnell ... Sheriff (uncredited) Joe Ploski Joe Ploski ... Ex-Soldier (uncredited) Murray Pollack Murray Pollack ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Edward Rickard Edward Rickard ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Sig Ruman Sig Ruman ... Landlord (uncredited) Edna Ryan Edna Ryan ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Cosmo Sardo Cosmo Sardo ... Waiter (uncredited) Bernard Sell Bernard Sell ... Club Patron (uncredited) Richard Shannon Richard Shannon ... Joe, Adjutant Captain (uncredited) Dick Stabile Dick Stabile ... Band Leader at the Carousel Club (uncredited) Norman Stevans Norman Stevans ... Club Patron (uncredited) Grady Sutton Grady Sutton ... Mr. Herring (uncredited) Carl 'Alfalfa' Switzer Carl 'Alfalfa' Switzer ... Bennie Haynes (uncredited) Hal Taggart Hal Taggart ... Anniversary Party Guest (uncredited) Willard Van Simmons Willard Van Simmons ... Dancer (uncredited) Herb Vigran Herb Vigran ... Novello, Nightclub Manager (uncredited) Produced by Robert Emmett Dolan ... producerMusic by Gus Levene ... (uncredited) Joseph J. Lilley ... (uncredited) Van Cleave ... (uncredited)Cinematography by Loyal Griggs ... director of photographyFilm Editing by Frank Bracht Art Direction by Roland Anderson Hal Pereira Set Decoration by Sam Comer Grace Gregory Costume Design by Edith Head Makeup Department Wally Westmore ... makeup supervisorProduction Management Andrew J. Durkus ... assistant production manager (uncredited) Curtis Mick ... unit manager (uncredited)Second Unit Director or Assistant Director John R. 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Lilley ... music director / vocal arranger Troy Sanders ... music associate Van Cleave ... orchestral arranger Michael Behan ... musician: bass (uncredited) Bernard Mayers ... composer: additional music (uncredited) Gloria Wood ... background singer: Vera-Ellen (uncredited)Additional Crew Richard Mueller ... technicolor color consultant Nick Castle ... choreographer (uncredited)Crew verified as complete Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper

Re: Who is this guitarist? etcjoe #641563 02/11/21 10:26 AM Off-Topic
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Guitarhacker Veteran Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 9,324 Middlesex, NC	normally, if you watch the credit roll at the end....and have your finger on the pause button, they tell you. I see Music Student gave a list but alas.... no guitarist at the party is listed.... hmmmmmmmm. Last edited by Guitarhacker; 02/11/21 10:28 AM. You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.com Add nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.

Re: Who is this guitarist? etcjoe #641677 02/12/21 02:10 AM Off-Topic
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OP etcjoe Journeyman Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 730 Florida	Yeah, I have seen all the cast lists etc. from all over the internet. These old movies credits were not as extensive as they are today. Now you get 5 or 6 minutes of credits rolling and every single person that did anything gets listed. Back then they only listed the major players in the project. I appreciate the try! My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.

Re: Who is this guitarist? etcjoe #641678 02/12/21 02:13 AM Off-Topic
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OP etcjoe Journeyman Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 730 Florida	"Maybe just a walkon for the photo, but otherwise you should be able to find him here. I see the bass player identified by no Guitarist?" He was in a couple of scenes and they were playing background music for the scene so he was miming the part, but watching his hands he is really playing chords, real chords. So I made an assumption that he was a real guitar player, not an actor etc. Anyway, just wondering. Thanks for looking. My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.

Re: Who is this guitarist? etcjoe #641703 02/12/21 04:35 AM Off-Topic
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 20,784 Hamlin NY	Have you searched the bass player's name? Many times they list who he played with so maybe this guitarist is listed. Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up. Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Who is this guitarist? etcjoe #642271 02/15/21 07:18 AM Off-Topic
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eddie1261 Veteran Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 7,301 Akron, Oh	From IMDB Music Department Robert Alton ... stager: dances and musical numbers Joseph J. Lilley... music director / vocal arranger Troy Sanders ... music associate Van Cleave ... orchestral arranger Michael Behan ... musician: bass (uncredited) Bernard Mayers ... composer: additional music (uncredited) Gloria Wood ... background singer: Vera-Ellen (uncredited) Don't know how that could help you any, because you have probably seen it as you researched it, but there it is for all to see. Last edited by eddie1261; 02/15/21 07:20 AM. I am using the new 1040XTRAEZ form this year. It has just 2 lines. 1. How much did you make in 2023? 2. Send it to us.

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