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Hi Folks, I'm starting this thread in the hopes that we can have a focused discussion regarding members' specific experiences with Big Sur. Suffice it to say upfront that Big Sur and BiaB are working fine for us.
There are many different approaches to the use of BiaB so hopefully we can share information on them and Big Sur in a manner that might prove useful to both older and newer members.
Our use of BiaB is built around RTs, RDs, MSTs and styles. When we are working on a production a big factor for us is the time that it take BiaB to regenerate and play and especially the time to render to audio files for use in a DAW. We do a LOT of cutting and pasting of RD and RT tracks so quick regens and renders are important to us. Our experience with Big Sur over the last week has given us some insight into this.
So far Big Sur / Build 422 is faster than Catalina for the below functions. I plan to gather some additional data regarding the use of styles.
Source: SGU file containing four RT's and a RD 2:49 minutes long.
Pan: 0 / Reverb: 0 / Tone: 0 / Volume: max
BiaB/Catalina 2020..........render to audio 22.83s regen and play 5.88s
BiaB/Big Sur 2020 422.....render to audio 16.63s regen and play 4.42s
Granted this is a very small part of the way BiaB can be implemented in one's work flow but we thought the performance increase might be of interest.
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iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) Big Sur
3.5 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i5
24 GB 2400 MHz DDR4
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Bud,
Glad to hear that biab is working well for you on BigSur. As mentioned elsewhere, biab 2020 builds 422 and higher support BigSur and the new M1 Macs, and biab 2020 runs on all OS from Snow leopard to BigSur inclusive.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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Bud - on my late 2015 iMac 21.5 (2.8ghz i5, 8gb ram, 750gb hdd, Iris Pro 6200) RT generation takes exactly the same time on Big Sur as it does on Mojave (I don't have Catalina to test right now). Test song was the _BLUETAM demo song which has 5 RT's and is 12 bars and 5 choruses. RT generation took 14.394 seconds on Big Sur and 14.892 seconds on Mojave, which is only a 3% difference.
Some users like you have reported that RT generation is faster in Big Sur, and we have tested some faster RT generation on the M1 chip. It'll vary a bit depending on hardware though, as in my case Mojave and Big Sur were basically the same.
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Zero problems after working through a new project over the last several days. Since updates have been issued subsequent to 422 I’ll mark this resolved. Have fun and be safe!
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