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I found a very nice 3 minutes 10 seconds +++ VIDEO +++ demonstrating how recorded sound changes based solely on microphone positioning. The device used to remotely change the mic position is called a +++ Dynamount +++ XI-R.
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That is some really cool & pricey tech Jim, thanks for sharing!
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The tech is pricey but the video is informative regarding the effect of microphone positioning on the final sound result.
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Excellent video! I should build my own one of these, it'd be far cheaper. Maybe not as good looking though lol.
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I think the Royer 122 pickup pattern is like my 121, in that the sideways position rejects sound. That's very dramatic in the video.
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It would be interesting to see a similar video with vocals. So I went off to look and found this - not quite the same, but valuable none the less. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vabjx8mZ6tU
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Ok, what am I missing? In the old days, we used our ears. When all is said and done, we still do.
It is an interesting piece of hardware. I can see its use on film and TV sets, certain industrial applications etc. but the concept is not new. Similar remote devices for controlling mic position have existed for decades — perhaps not as slick and inexpensive as this one. Except for being compact, it brings nothing new to the table.
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I think the Royer 122 pickup pattern is like my 121, in that the sideways position rejects sound. That's very dramatic in the video. Yeah, ribbon mics are almost always a figure 8 pickup pattern, with nulls at the sides (I say "almost always" because I know of at least one hypercardioid ribbon, the Beyerdynamic M160). I've never used the Royers, but the AEA ribbons I used to use were very dramatically different off axis. Been thinking of adding a pair of ribbons to my mic collection lately, still deciding which ones. I don't need them, but I definitely want them...
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I have a Beyerdynamic 160 as well. Great mic for half the price of the Royer. Totally different polar pattern response from the Royer.
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I have a Beyerdynamic 160 as well. Great mic for half the price of the Royer. Totally different polar pattern response from the Royer. I'd love a pair of each of those, though my pocketbook won't allow it. Interestingly, an old Shure 300 ribbon mic popped up locally, so I might pick that one up... Gear Acquisition Syndrome at it's best!
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Unless you can afford an arsenal in your mic locker, and take the time to learn exactly how each will work, then you want to know why you want a specific mic. I’m lucky to have recorded in many studios on many mics, and I know which makes me sound the way I like.
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I've used a pair of AEA R92's extensively, mostly as drum overheads and room mics, very nice on those and guitar amps too. I just can't justify the price tag yet. Also used an old RCA 77DX, which was wonderful on everything I threw it at.
I personally own a locker full of mics up in that price range, just no ribbons as of yet. I have an old Apex 205 ribbon kicking around that needs re-ribboning as the chrome paint on the magnets flaked off and tore through the ribbon, though I'm not certain it's worth repairing, even if I do the work myself...
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