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#643742 - 02/24/21 04:14 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed?
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Hi folks,

I've been struggling with this issue for years now. When making a held chord, pushed chord or a shot, the crash cymbals or snares, sometimes the bass drum is so extremely loud, it makes the play along useless.
Yes, I have lowered the db in the Real Drums preferences menu by 24db already, to absolutely no avail.

I mainly use the basic jazz Realtracks, that are in the Band Styles (best Real Styles) menu, in the jazz swing entries.

At the end of a song I often use a held chord. But instead of holdig the chord I often get a hit on the snare, that blows my speakers and ear drums.

When using pushes (I don't even use shots anymore), the cymbals produce a loud crash.
I already get complaints from my customers, who buy my backing tracks, despite almost compressing the drum tracks to death. I now just mute the drums in the last bar, to avoid the snare shot I get, when choosing a held chord. But I can't do that for needed pushes in the middle of the song.

This is so frustrating! I'm currently thinking of recording the Backing Tracks myself from scratch, bc I really can't work like that. All I need are drums and bass anyway.

This issue was reported years ago and it still hapens. Mind you, these are the very basic jazz swing Realtracks, nothing fancy. Please patch the Realtracks ASAP!

Thank you!

Sandra
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#643747 - 02/24/21 04:50 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed? [Re: Sandra Sherman]
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Guten Tag Sandra
You say you reduced Db levels, but did you try to reduce velocity. This user recently reported some success with what sounds like the same issue as you.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=643240#Post643240

Dan
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#643752 - 02/24/21 05:59 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed? [Re: Sandra Sherman]
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Dan,
Thank you for finding/pointing a "workaround".
For some time too, I was confused why some shots or holds have that loud bang...
It would be nice if shots, holds etc. were volume equalized for arrangement automatically... and adjusted if needed.
Feature request?

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#643753 - 02/24/21 06:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed? [Re: MusicStudent]
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Thanks for re-posting this link Dan. Just what I needed, just when I needed it!

Jeff
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#643754 - 02/24/21 06:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed? [Re: MusicStudent]
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Thank you! I did exactly that. Maybe I have to go with even higher numbers of db reduction in the Real Drums preferences.
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#643759 - 02/24/21 06:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed? [Re: Sandra Sherman]
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Let us all know how it works. This has been a long issue and I was surprized to see this option available. Does it solve the problem? Yea or Nay?
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#643760 - 02/24/21 06:52 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed? [Re: MusicStudent]
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If reduced enough it eliminates the rude drum hits and cymbal crashes or choked cymbals but it does eliminate the push completely from the drum track. I suppose pushed cymbals could be added in a DAW later.
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#643822 - 02/24/21 02:17 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Extremely loud holds, pushes and shots - Why is this still not fixed? [Re: Sandra Sherman]
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I experimented a bit today. -50db seems to be a good compromise. -60db is way too low and less reduction, till lik -40db doesn't do anything at all.

So yeah, I can live with the -50db setting.

Thanks for the workaround!

Sandra
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