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#641366 - 02/10/21 09:21 AM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Wow David this is so good. Those vocals are really cool. Amazing so real sounding. Really like the male voice. Very neat song too. Well done
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#641487 - 02/11/21 04:37 AM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Hi David,

I like the voices and music. The lyrics are great as well. Something was bothering me about the title messing with the 'time(s)' mentioned in the song [past, present, future].

I wanted to start rearranging the lyrics to fit a time sequence better, but the easiest solution would be to replace 'After' with 'Now' in all occurrences in the song. Then the whole concept flows better.

Thanks for sharing.

James

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#641560 - 02/11/21 12:21 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Man, I loved the song. I'm not a fan of vocaloids but.... having said that... I'd love to hear this with a good male/female duet. That would really take this one over the top.
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#641578 - 02/11/21 01:42 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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David

That was really nicely done and the male voice was especially good.

Clever engaging and some really nice song writing.

Peter

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#641656 - 02/12/21 01:43 AM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Hi Dave,

Thanks for your nice and well based reply on my post.
also nice was your mentioning of Realivox from Mike. I have the 'Ladies' and I had a long email conversation with him about some issues. Really nice guy. And I hope that update you mentioned also includes the 'Ladies', because maybe I can use them again.

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#641771 - 02/12/21 01:43 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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"Now you're gone
And life goes on (Flowers bloom)
The flowers bloomed without you there
They watched the sun (They watch the sunshine)
Like nothing's changed
One more day"

David, that is a wonderful way of saying life goes on. Fine write!

The sparse arrangement is most effective in delivering the lyric and lovely melody.

Your work with the vocals is way beyond our pay grade but the result is very impressive , e.g., the phrasing and the harmony are in the pocket. And, hey, regarding the female vocal within the context of modern music we feel there is a thin line between ethereal and "alien." And, as folks who "talk" to Siri all the time we say she can be quite emotive smile

As a demo it would well deliver your fine write and standing alone it's an impressive listen and a good indicator of your high level of musicality if you will.

We enjoyed listening and this entire thread has been a fascinating read.

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#641775 - 02/12/21 02:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Extraordinary workflow and technique, David. Thank you for taking the time to explain your methods. I'm not the only one hanging on every word. Fascinating!
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#641813 - 02/12/21 09:19 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: BlueAttitude]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Good melody and harmonies, that probably helped them along wink

Hi, Dave.

Yeah, I think the harmonic interplay really helps make the song.

I'm glad you enjoyed it! laugh
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#641815 - 02/12/21 09:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: Steve Young]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Young
Excellent write, David. I'm still getting used to the synthesized vocals. They have come a long way, and the mail vocal you programmed did sound more realistic, as you pointed out. On this song the vocals didn't get in the way of putting your song across, and that's a good thing.

Thanks, Steve. That was my biggest concern here.

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Arrangement is nice. At first I was thinking the positive feel of the arrangement was at odds with the sad lyrics. But then the 2nd half of the song cheered up and makes it work. Sort of has a Carpenters feel (and that's a very good thing.)

Any Carpenters reference is a huge compliment! laugh

I wasn't sure starting off with harmony would be a good match for the song. I'd only sketched in the harmony over the first verse because the second verse hadn't been put together yet, as I was still working out the first verse. I intended to remove it from the beginning to give the song a bit more of a build, and I wasn't sure that starting with harmony was a good way to go.

But then I thought of all the classic Beatles songs that started that way, and decided to take a risk.

I was also worried that the drum fills were a bit "big" and made the sound a bit too "pop". But after not having much luck searching through BiaB (I didn't try too hard), I decided to stick with them anyway. On a different day, I might have made a different decision.

Thanks again for listening and your feedback!
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#641817 - 02/12/21 09:45 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: BabuMusic]
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Originally Posted By: BabuMusic
Man, that's a lot of work, David, and I really really like the result. The song itself is a gem, and you present it in a very engaging way. The vocals sound cool, perhaps a bit too perfect, but you made them work very well.

Thanks! That's good to hear.

I'll work harder at "tuning" the vocals next time around. Or so I keep promising. wink

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Yes, the female sounds a bit more alien, but it's definitely as cool as singing into a tube hooked to a guitar. I like the effect.

I'm glad it wasn't too distracting. I'd worked with the Avanna Vocaloid in the past, and while I really liked the voice, it also had an "alien" sound at a higher register, as well as a sort of detached sound.

I'm looking forward to a Synthesizer V voice that sounds more natural in the upper register.
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#641818 - 02/12/21 09:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: Scott C]
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Originally Posted By: Scott C
Wow David this is so good. Those vocals are really cool. Amazing so real sounding. Really like the male voice. Very neat song too. Well done

Thanks, Scott! smile
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#641820 - 02/12/21 10:04 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: jamestoffee]
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Originally Posted By: jamestoffee
Something was bothering me about the title messing with the 'time(s)' mentioned in the song [past, present, future].

I wanted to start rearranging the lyrics to fit a time sequence better, but the easiest solution would be to replace 'After' with 'Now' in all occurrences in the song. Then the whole concept flows better.

Hi, James.

I see your point.

The intent of using the word "after" was to convey the idea that the singer was speaking to the soon-to-be departed about what will happen "after" it happened, while the second verse would be the singer reflecting on how things had - and had not changed - by their leaving.

So both verses are taking place "in the present", only they are at different "present" times.

But it obviously didn't come off as clearly as it should have.

Glad to hear the rest of the song worked. I appreciate your feedback laugh
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#641821 - 02/12/21 10:06 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Man, I loved the song. I'm not a fan of vocaloids but.... having said that... I'd love to hear this with a good male/female duet. That would really take this one over the top.

Hi, Ed.

So would I! I haven't ruled it out.

Thanks for stopping by. smile
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#641822 - 02/12/21 10:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: PeterF]
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Originally Posted By: PeterF
That was really nicely done and the male voice was especially good.

Clever engaging and some really nice song writing.

Thanks, Peter! smile
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#641823 - 02/12/21 10:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: Birchwood]
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Originally Posted By: Birchwood
also nice was your mentioning of Realivox from Mike. I have the 'Ladies' and I had a long email conversation with him about some issues. Really nice guy. And I hope that update you mentioned also includes the 'Ladies', because maybe I can use them again.

Hi, Hans.

I love watching Mike's videos of his products - he obviously loves what he does. His enthusiasm makes me want to buy everything he makes - even though I know I'd never use it! grin

But he's got a habit of getting sidetracked on stuff. He worked on Hip Hop Creator forever, which looks like it would be a ton of fun if I was even remotely into that genre. But it (bafflingly) doesn't seem to be selling that well, whereas the RealiBanjo apparently his hottest seller, and that only took a day to sample. (I'd have bought it, but BiaB has got me set for life with banjo tracks. And I've got a banjo sitting in the corner of the room).

Realivox Men is a product that's perennially promised, but always seems to be "next year". I should probably just record (and heavily pitch correct) myself singing "Ooooh" and "Aaaaah" and build a vocal library for myself with the Aria player.
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#641825 - 02/12/21 10:40 PM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Nice Song, well crafted arrangement. I like the breaks that give the song more dynamics than just running it straight through. I'm not one to read they lyrics. I want to hear the melody and how the phrasing flows. Thought you did a nice job on this one. Cheers !!

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#641837 - 02/13/21 02:46 AM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Hi dcuny,
Wonderful vocals. Everything in the softness with the very soft violin line. It is very pleasant. Well done.

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#641840 - 02/13/21 03:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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David, that is a wonderful way of saying life goes on. Fine write!

Thanks!

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As a demo it would well deliver your fine write and standing alone it's an impressive listen and a good indicator of your high level of musicality if you will.

Awesome, that was the goal!

I appreciate your positive feedback! laugh
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#641842 - 02/13/21 03:09 AM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: edshaw]
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Extraordinary workflow and technique, David. Thank you for taking the time to explain your methods. I'm not the only one hanging on every word. Fascinating!

Thanks, Ed! laugh
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#641938 - 02/13/21 11:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: After You've Gone (Synthesizer V) [Re: dcuny]
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Really pretty song David!! I'm surprised how much I like the vocaloid thing.....conveys the emotion better than I would have thought. A really nice write and good production!! Take care. Greg

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