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#644006 - 02/26/21 02:47 AM [RealBand Wishlist] RB mixer - aux returns should go to subgroups not the main output bus
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Bob Calver Offline

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the PG aux sends its return to the main output bus. aux send and reurns are great for using one plugin on several tracks.
on a hardware mixer ( i think from memory of days gone by) you can reroute the aux return to the subgroup so the effected signal is changed with the subgroup slider in line with the original signal.
that doesn't happen with the RB mixer. i sent two tracks to a subgroup. the subgroup fader does not affect the track faders - they don't move - that doesn't matter i just wanted to see if they did. i then soloed one of the tracks and took the subgroup fader down to mute the soloed track and i still got an audio output of the reverb fx sent on the aux return to the main output bus.

so looks like you can't use aux send and returns with subgroups - the fx return does not respond to subgroup volume slider changes so the balance of wet and dry signals changes as the wet signal is not affected by the subgroup changes. the wet signal goes directly to the main output bus at its original level.

#644800 - 03/02/21 06:07 PM [RealBand Wishlist] Re: RB mixer - aux returns should go to subgroups not the main output bus [Re: Bob Calver]
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rharv Offline

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Sounds like you prefer to have AUX go to subgroup and then the Main Out.
I use RB/PT a bit different; if I want an effect on a subgroup mix, I put that effect there in the FX area of the subgroup. Then the output of both are controlled by the subgroup slider (easy enough to to save a Preset or Group and use it on the subgroup)
I expect the AUX to be routed directly to the Main Out as a different/separate route.
Depends on your workflow I guess but I see the advantages to both. <grin>

Mainly because I can then send a track(s) to a given Subgroup as you desire and add FX to those tracks via Subgroup FX .. but I can also add them to a 'room' effect AUX with different settings and still control the amount of said track(s) via the AUX send dials, so I get the best of both worlds, but need to pay attention to how I use them.

The flexibility adds complexity. I get that 100%, but once you 'get it', I'm not sure I'd change it.
Especially when you get so many AUX slots to work with; it's a matter of watching the Mixer AUX send dials. Sometimes using just the FX in the Subgroup solves the problem (and remove the AUX send) but sometimes the added option/flexibility makes sense.

Edited by rharv (03/02/21 06:24 PM)
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