I am still having problems with midi drums, with my Yamaha xg lite VSTi Yamaha SGP2 (S-YXG2006LE) VST in the BIAB Mixer, build 2021 827. The problem only occurs on the drum track, mixer track 3 ch10 where it does not play drums but plays the equivalent voice patch (it should play the matching drum set)
However if I open a midi multi channel file in the melody track it plays drums normally for any note data on ch 10 as per normal midi practice. I might say that the same VSTi works fine in realband and other software.
This VSTi worked fine on BIAB 2019.
SO FOR SOME REASON mixer track 3 ch 10 drums does not honour mid ch 10 convention on this 2021 version of the mixer.
Even stranger if I use the coyote wave table vst it works fine on mixer track3 ch10 And resolves to the expected drum set!!!
Perplexed Mike
Last edited by Mike Head; 04/08/2105:46 AM. Reason: drum mixer track no error
GM and XG are one number off with patch numbers. Can't remember which but the GM or XG patch list starts with 0 and the other starts with 1 so all the patch numbers are off by 1 from each other but with the same names. Under Options>GM Settings>Send MIDI Messages select Send XG Mode On Startup. That should fix the problem. I'm not at my music computer so I may have missed a step but it's there.
Hi thanks for your replies guys, Jim No that is not the case
If you use the basic midi set bank from xg they have a msb and lsb of 000 000 respectively And are fully midi compliant.
Bob Yes I am aware of the one number shift that Yamaha uses for its patches I did try the setting for sending xg mode at start up but it did not do the trick. I normally have a XGlite pat file loaded that takes care of that. Anyway the vst works fine in realband and also in BIAB if you import a multi ch midi file into the melody track this will play drums with any data on ch10 as per normal. The problem is playing the style drum track, track 3 ch 10 it does not play drums it plays the equivalent instrument patch there fore for drum set 1 standard kit you get a piano, so the fact that the data is on ch10 it is not playing drum sets as normal midi practise. It’s got me beat worked fine for years, it seem to be since I upgraded from 2019 to 2021. but then there seems to have been a lot of midi problems with the new mixer.
Ok one more clue. If I start BIAB from cold with an all midi style selected and the vst, when I press play the fist beat of the count in just one beat, plays the normal side stick, all following count in beats and drums play the equivalent instrument patch, so piano in stead of standard kit, bass instead of jazz kit etc.
As I said earlier the coyote wave table works fine and plays drums as normal.
If anyone wants to see the offending XGlite Vsti, it is downloadable + my BIAB PAT file from my web site below. Even without the Pat file it will use GM patches. You will find it on my Freebies page scroll down towards the bottom. I linked to this some years ago on this forum and it has been downloaded and used many times with no problems. Worked fine in the BIAB 2019 build never had 2020 Hopefully Andrew and co. will have a look. Mike
Something I am sure some one will Know is what are the 2 other files to try deleting from biab when return to factory does not do the job. Apart from Intrface.bbw or does factory settings do them all anyway?
Something I am sure some one will Know is what are the 2 other files to try deleting from biab when return to factory does not do the job. Apart from Intrface.bbw or does factory settings do them all anyway?
Usually the intrface.bbw and MySetup.DK would suffice. They're found in the bb/preferences folder. We have more info on what settings the other preferences files contain here: https://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq62.htm#93
Last edited by Chantelle - PG Music; 04/15/2103:44 AM.
If anyone wants to see the offending XGlite Vsti, it is downloadable + my BIAB PAT file from my web site below. Even without the Pat file it will use GM patches. You will find it on my Freebies page scroll down towards the bottom. I linked to this some years ago on this forum and it has been downloaded and used many times with no problems. Worked fine in the BIAB 2019 build never had 2020 Hopefully Andrew and co. will have a look. Mike
Downloaded your VST and XGLite.pat and it works fine for me, but not with GM patches - the VST itself seems to require XG patches to select drums, despite sending patches to channel 10 (I think this is because BB sends bank 0 and banklsb 0 messages on play). Please make sure when selecting the patch that you click on the Send Patch button as I've highlighted below:
Mike, The issue is that the XGLite plugin switches from drums to a melodic instrument on the drums channel (10).
This happens if any bank change is sent on the drum channel. Styles typically send bank 0 on all used channels to insure the correct patch is chosen.
Do you know why XGLite does that?
We previously put an option to never send drum bank changes (on channel 10) to fix the same issue with hardware XG.
So we can have the same option apply to plugins, and that would fix it, but it seems incorrect behavior for a GM synth plugin to not play drums on channel 10 if it has received a bank change event of 0, which is the default bank. The next patch release will have that, and should work for the XGLite (32 bit plugin). As long as Prefs-MIDI Options-Drum Bank Changes is "disabled" (the default is "disabled") . And Prefs-MIDI Channels- Drums should have banks set to 0, though this likely doesn't matter.
Add updated printing options, enhanced tracks settings, smoother use of MGU and SGU (BB files) within PowerTracks, and more with the latest PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 update!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you over the phone. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday, and 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST Saturday. We are closed Sunday. You can also send us your questions via email.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you on our Live Chat or by email. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday; 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST (GMT -8) Saturday; Closed Sunday.
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean