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One of the most valuable pieces of advice (IMO) using BiaB is to experiment with different styles
Once you learn how to combine different styles it becomes even more mind boggling
That's why a lot of power users say to always get the ultrapak; more styles/realtracks
You might assume you'll won't use them, but as you discovered, it can sometimes be surprising what you end up using
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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CATHIE.
heres what i recommend. heres what i did when i upgraded to
biab/rb 2020.
i spent a month before starting on a new song doing the following.
1. i set up a new windows file called example styles i liked.
and without disturbing the biab dir's i copied every style i liked out of the thousands available to this new dir.
2. i like those lined yellow pads lol.
i made a page for each real trak type eg sax or drums or bass or whatever. with a vertical line down the middle.
2 column headings. real trak id no and comments.
thus when i'm looking for my fav acoustic gtr or mando or whatever RT i just go to that page. saves lots of time.
in summary the yellow pad contains all my favorite RT's
with comments.
the above IS lots of work to set up in a 3 ring binder , but i just find its lots of help when i'm deciding which styles and RT's to use in a song.
as i said took me a month of methodically going through
every single style and RT.
hth
oldmusao
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Oh wow!! rharv and oldmuso those are great ideas! Now that I've finally found something that works with my song, I'm not so stressed and I might just start a new list of styles as I come across them. I know BIAB has a way to mark favorites because I see that option to open one's favorites list--but I'm old-fashioned enough to like handwritten lists. As a matter of fact I have an old columnar pad which would be really useful, room enough for the name of the style, the instrumentation, the genre, real or midi... I was going to use it to make a garden seed inventory but I think it just got hijacked by the Inner Songwriter, lol... Thanks again for the terrific ideas!
Love is always worth the risk.
HP laptop; Windows 10 Home 64 bit; core i5; 2.40 Ghz; 8 GB RAM; 256 GB hard drive; BIAB 2021 Build 835.
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CATHIE.
my lovely wife is heavy into the garden.
and, as any gardener knows ; to create a wonderfull garden is lots of work. SAME WITH SONGS. they are lots of work also, irrespective of tools used.
(actually unlike my wife i'm a lousy gardener lol.)
all i can advise is to keep at it.
ive done loads of songs in my life, which brings me to a major point. dont fret starting off whether other people like it or not.
if YOU love it. and are proud of it , thats whats important.
otherwise youll drive yourself crazy with song analysis.
ive chased around that particular mulberry bush too many times by over analysing this or that.
another thing.
keep a seperate note pad for all a songs details.
i keep a seperate 3 ring binder for all my song details.
ie the song lyrics/settings/key/bpm/style used// fx used on which traks etc etc etc. ie intricate details about the song.
in addition, irrespective of the biab built in metronome, i always start off first 4 bars with a RD drum beat. which doesnt appear in the final song.
(its a point of reference only for later lining up traks in my daw imported from biab and other software i might use.)
in ending let me say , in writing songs sometimes less is more.
for example this week i was doing a new song idea and testing it out, and realised i was over complicating.
so i started the song off with a lonely piano RT , before the whole band slammed in; and i went "yeah thats it".
often songwriting is lots of tricks cathie.
remember to take breaks also. biab and rb are very deep.
best.
oldmuso
ps an idea starting out songwriting. dont spend a ton of dough on "gear". because your perception of what tools you need will change over time.
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 05/01/21 01:02 AM.
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Thank you, oldmuso. Up to this point, I've put the heavy work into actually writing the song. The work for song productiuon is certainly a flower of a different stripe... or maybe it's spotted. Got me. **rueful smile** All I can do is keep on trying. Thanks again for your tips and tricks; I truly appreciate it.
Love is always worth the risk.
HP laptop; Windows 10 Home 64 bit; core i5; 2.40 Ghz; 8 GB RAM; 256 GB hard drive; BIAB 2021 Build 835.
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