Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
You need to be logged in to post
Options
Index
#654892 - 05/08/21 02:48 PM [User Showcase] Beach of love
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hello nice members of the biab,

I have fallen behind in my comments on your compositions and I apologize for it. I will make up for this delay in the coming days.
Here I submit to you an unfinished instrumental composition. For me, it lacks variations or it is too long. Your turn to judge. Thank you in advance for your advice.

The style is ballad with guitar and mandolin. The construction is the same as for my previous instrumental compositions. I always use the Biab vst at the start. I am looking for midi arrangements that I am restructuring in the pianoroll of my daw studio one. Thank you in advance for your comments or advice on this instrumental composition.

the link to this compo is :
https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631/the-beach-of-love

The link to my other compos is :
https://soundcloud.com/user-318966631

Kindly regard
Derochette
alis JaniJackFlash

Top
#654895 - 05/08/21 03:23 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 01/10/13
Posts: 1082
Loc: The Heartland....Kansas
chulaivet1966 Offline
Expert

Registered: 01/10/13
Posts: 1082
Loc: The Heartland....Kansas
Originally Posted By: Derochette
Here I submit to you an unfinished instrumental composition. For me, it lacks variations or it is too long. Your turn to judge. Thank you in advance for your advice. The style is ballad with guitar and mandolin.


Well howdy Derrochete....(after (2) listens)

More importantly, I enjoy all your compositions.
They're easy to listen to and it's obvious that you spent time on them.

Regarding the above:
I would not consider this a 'ballad' even if you used the 'ballad' style.
To me, this is a soundtrack composition and should be defined as such.
There are thematic elements/phrases that could be revisited (motif) during the whole composition depending on how you decide to arrange it.

In this context...yes...it could be shorter and a bit more organized.
But, that is not a critique....just a subjective observation as I know nothing about composing an appealing soundtrack. (you do, though :))

IMO....the structure of an instrumental composition has to be well thought out to keep the listeners attention.
Any perception of compositional rambling listeners could lose interest.

Of course, you can totally ignore my thoughts. smile
As a composition, I like it.

Hope that helps....keep up the good work.






Edited by chulaivet1966 (05/08/21 03:29 PM)

Top
#654898 - 05/08/21 04:05 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 06/19/17
Posts: 2695
Loc: Victoria, BC
Ember - PG Music Online   content
PG Music Staff

Registered: 06/19/17
Posts: 2695
Loc: Victoria, BC
I think this is a really great start to the instrumental! Keep up the great work.
_________________________
Cheers,
Ember

Top
#654904 - 05/08/21 05:13 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 16673
Loc: Hamlin NY
MarioD Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 16673
Loc: Hamlin NY
Yes this is a great start to a very good instrumental. I liked what I heard but I thought it was a little repetitious. Stopping around the 2:40 mark would be ideal IMHO. However as always your instrumentation and orchestration is spot on. YMMV
_________________________
I don't like to brag about expensive trips but I did just return from the gas station.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB and RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software and some hardware

Top
#654933 - 05/09/21 06:20 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hi chulaivet1966,

Thank you for your analysis and your advice. It is true that it is too repetitive with little variation. I'm going to completely review this soundtrack and review the style to give away from ballads. Thank you again.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash

Top
#654935 - 05/09/21 06:24 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hi Ember,

It is always an honor to see you comment on a composition and especially one of mine. It's nice to see the staff follow its members so ready and encourage them. A big thank you to the whole team and especially to you.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash

Top
#654936 - 05/09/21 06:28 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hi MarioD,

I appreciate your analysis and thank you for the comment on soundcloud. I retain the fact of shortening this instrumental soundtrack to 2 min 40. I will review everything at the orchestration level to vary according to my possibilities and my inspiration. Thank you again for your advice.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash

Top
#654944 - 05/09/21 07:39 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 12/14/20
Posts: 59
Loc: Flower Station, Ontario
ChadHC Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 12/14/20
Posts: 59
Loc: Flower Station, Ontario
very relaxing. Is the choir sound from BIAB? Did not know it could do that.Definitely nice as ambiance and relaxation. Good job
_________________________
Chad

Top
#654979 - 05/09/21 09:45 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 9835
Loc: Florida
floyd jane Offline
Veteran

Registered: 08/10/12
Posts: 9835
Loc: Florida
Derochette,

A good composition. It works well as a "soundscape".

I did not find it to be "too long" at all. Enjoyable listen the entire time.

A good mix.

What are you using for the acoustic guitar?

fj

Top
#654998 - 05/09/21 12:29 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 14490
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
AudioTrack Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 14490
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Well chosen instrumentation, and this would make an ideal backing track, perhaps for a video or holiday slideshow etc.

Quite relaxing, although a little more variation would enhance the delivery.
_________________________
BIAB & RB2022(Audiophile), SonarPlatinum, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M StudioMonitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Top
#655030 - 05/09/21 07:15 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 6289
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Scott C Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/08/11
Posts: 6289
Loc: Edmonton, Ab, Canada
Love your songs. Love the way you mix them. Soundscape is deep and wide. Clarity and air in the music is so very cool...

Top
#655064 - 05/10/21 06:10 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/27/19
Posts: 1518
Loc: Dallas, PA, USA
BabuMusic Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/27/19
Posts: 1518
Loc: Dallas, PA, USA
I'm afraid I have no help in setting you on the right course for this one, Derochette. It sure seems to show a vision of water rising from the bow, and at times the listener is ushered to the stern to enjoy the splash of the wake. Perhaps these visions are influenced by your cover photo and title, but then perhaps the music you created inspired your choices. It's a captivating ride. It was neither too long nor lacking in its variety of mood.
_________________________
Enjoy whatever happens!
marty

Babu Music on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLDrsXTXfShgnGalQZ0ElQw
Me on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/marty-straub

My website: http://martystraub.com/

using Band in a Box, Reaper & Cakewalk

Top
#655081 - 05/10/21 08:23 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 02/20/10
Posts: 1649
Loc: Maryland
TuneMonger Offline
Expert

Registered: 02/20/10
Posts: 1649
Loc: Maryland
I liked the complex arrangement upon a sparse melody. Worked great for me, did not feel unfinished. It will be interesting to hear your final product. Good work!
_________________________
Windows 10, Intel Core I5 10400, 16 gig ram, Scarlett 6i6, Komplete keyboard, Sony Acid Music Studio 11, BIAB 2020 UltraPlus Pak

Top
#655103 - 05/10/21 09:26 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 997
jptjptjpt Offline
Expert

Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 997
I know nothing about composition so I will comment on what I know about - I like the tune. If is very pleasing and relaxing. The title says it all. Well done. Another song that would be perfect for a movie.
_________________________
My music can be heard at: The Cracks

Top
#655117 - 05/10/21 10:57 AM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 01/06/20
Posts: 1506
Loc: Illinois
CaptainMoto Offline
Expert

Registered: 01/06/20
Posts: 1506
Loc: Illinois
Tasty bit of romance.

moto
_________________________
An Old Man Make'n Music

https://sites.google.com/view/captainmoto-com/home?authuser=0

Top
#655128 - 05/10/21 12:10 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11221
Loc: GA USA
Janice & Bud Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/05/11
Posts: 11221
Loc: GA USA
We also feel that it is very cinematic and would work for a variety of film themes.

As floyd mentioned we too are interested in the source of the acoustic guitar.

Lovely and well done!

J&B
_________________________
J&B Soundcloud
J&B YouTube
J&B Website

Top
#655137 - 05/10/21 01:12 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hi ChadHC,

Thank you for passing over my soundscape. The choirs are from eastwest choir because they are easier to work with in the pianoroll with midi files.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash

Top
#655143 - 05/10/21 01:45 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hi Floyd Jane,

It is a pleasure to read you and to answer your question. Before, let me explain my working method to you. Either I start from a biab realtrack and I extract the midi file, or I play myself as a wav file and with melodyn essential, I transform the wav file into a midi file.

After I apply a guitar vst. Here is the fabfour blackbird from Eastwest. All Eastwest products are relatively expensive except if and this is my case I took a subscription that gives me access to all their big sound libraries for $ 20 per month. And that gives me access to all types of guitars depending on the soundtracks I compose. I also bought two other vsts that I really appreciate. Realguitar of musiclab and IIya Efimov Guitar.

Thanks for stopping by to listen and comment.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash

Top
#655144 - 05/10/21 01:50 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hi VideoTrack,

Thank you for coming and commenting and giving me your appreciation.
The melody is too long and I will limit it to 2min 30 to 3 minutes at the most. I'm thinking about variations in the last part to break up the monotony.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash

Top
#655146 - 05/10/21 01:54 PM [User Showcase] Re: Beach of love [Re: Derochette]
Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Derochette Offline
Expert

Registered: 05/30/20
Posts: 849
Loc: Belgium
Hi Scott C,

I'm glad you enjoyed it. And thanks for the encouragement on soundcloud.

Kindly regard
Derochette
alias JaniJackFlash


Edited by Derochette (05/10/21 02:02 PM)

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >


PG Music News
Customers LOVE Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows!

Here's what they're saying about Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows

"2022 is a true game changer, the biggest thing since the first RealTracks."
"Hands-down the best upgrade!"
"I always know I will love the RealTracks and this year is no exception. Some truly beautiful stuff in there."
"MicroChords is worth the upgrade alone. 4 chords per beat!"
"One of the most exciting upgrades to BIAB since I've been using the program and certainly the most fun to me!"
"Playable RealTracks + micro chords...WOW!"
"The new installer also makes it a breeze to download and install."
"Looks like everyone is in for a treat this year."
"I owned 2020 and now bought upgrade to 2022. New version is fantastic, I like the new features and styles!"
"I absolutely love the MC (microchords) up to 16 chords on a bar."
"There is something for everyone in the new version 2022!"
"This is a phenomenal update - really a game-changer!"
"Playable RealTracks are a game changer! Very powerful. Something we never thought could be done."
"One of the best Upgrades!"
...and more!

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows - Special Ends This Weekend!

It's almost over!

Our Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows special ends on Saturday, January 15th!

Save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows Upgrade by 11:59pm this Saturday!

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows includes over 50 new features and an amazing collection of new content, including 222 RealTracks (20 more than we've released in previous versions), new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Artist Performances, Xtra Styles PAK 12, New "playable RealTracks" Hi-Q sounds, 2 sets of "RealDrums Stems," and more!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2022 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 60 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade it to the 2022 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows.

XPro Styles PAK 2 - Special Ends January 15th!

Our special is over at 11:59pm on January 15th!

We've added 100 new RealStyles more to our XPro Styles collection with the just-released XPro Styles PAK 2!

These fresh new RealStyles will work with the Band-in-a-Box® Pro package contents! In fact, these will work with ANY Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows package!

The brand-new XPro Styles PAK 2 expands your Band-in-a-Box® 2022 style library with 100 fully-produced arrangements including 25 rock and pop styles, 25 jazz styles, 25 country styles, and 25 folk styles.

Our XPro Styles PAKs are ON SALE UNTIL January 15th! Add XPro Styles PAK 1 or 2 to your collection for only $29 each... that's 40% off our regular price of $49! Want them both? Order the XPro Styles PAKs 1 & 2 Bundle for just $49!

Watch our Demos video, or pick and choose the demos you want to listen to when you visit our XPro Styles PAKs page.

Note: XPro Styles PAK 2 requires RealTracks from Band-in-a-Box® 2022 or higher and is compatible with any package, including Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows - Special Extended to January 15th!

You didn't miss out on great deals.... we've extended our special to January 15th!!

Save up to 50% when you purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows Upgrade!

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows includes over 50 new features and an amazing collection of new content, including 222 RealTracks (20 more than we've released in previous versions), new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, Artist Performances, Xtra Styles PAK 12, New "playable RealTracks" Hi-Q sounds, 2 sets of "RealDrums Stems," and more!

We've packed our Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK with some amazing Add-ons! During our special (which ends Jan 15th), the Free Bonus PAK is automatically included with most Band-in-a-Box® for Windows 2022 packages, but for more even more Add-ons (including 60 Unreleased RealTracks!) upgrade it to the 2022 49-PAK for only $49. You can see the full lists of items in each package, and listen to demos here.

Check out our Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows.

Video: Producer Secrets- Mixing Drum Stems with Band-in-a-Box® 2022

New with Band-in-a-Box® 2022 - Drum Stems! These are separate tracks from the different mics in the RealDrums recording. We've included RealDrums Stems Set 1 and RealDrums Stems Set 2 in our 2022 Bonus PAKs, which means if you've purchased your copy of Band-in-a-Box® 2022 this month (December), you have access to this exciting new feature!

There's now a detailed video tutorial on mixing drum stems in Band-in-a-Box®, which includes tutorial files to follow along with: Producer Secrets - Mixing Drum Stems

Currently, drums stems are available for 50 RealDrums, but there are more to come!

Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows Bonus PAKs!

Purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2022 during December, and you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK*!

What does the Free Bonus PAK include?
-MIDI SuperTracks Set 34: Blues Piano and Organ (9 MSTs)
-Instrumental Studies 16: Fusion Guitar Soloing (6 studies)
-Artist Performance Set 11: Songs with Vocals volume 1 (20 songs)
-RealDrums Stems Set 1 (20 RealDrums stems)
-MIDI Styles Set 84: Look Ma! More MIDI 7 (complete, 15 styles)
-Over 400 playable RealTracks (sfz sforzando files)
-RealCombos Booster PAK (30 New RealStyles, 26 Existing RealStyles, 109 RT's/RD's)

Want even more? Boost your Free Bonus PAK to the 49-PAK for $49 to add:
-60 Bonus RT/RD (20 more than in previous years)
-MIDI SuperTracks Set 35: All Guitar (5 MSTs)
-Instrumental Studies 17: Classic Country Guitar Soloing (6 studies)
-Artist Performance Set 12: Songs with Vocals volume 2 (20 songs)
-RealDrums Stems Set 2 (20 RealDrums stems)
-Look Ma! More MIDI 8 (complete, 15 styles)

Learn more...

*excluding the $49 version upgrade purchase.

Band-in-a-Box® - 'Twas the Click Before Christmas!

Order any version of Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows (on sale until December 31st!) and receive a download key right away for use with our One-Click Installer.

Make it a musical Christmas!

Learn more about all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2022 for Windows.

Looking for Band-in-a-Box® for Mac? Version 2021 is available, and can also be downloaded right away when you receive your order confirmation if purchasing from us directly!

Forum Stats
35565 Members
63 Forums
73049 Topics
637218 Posts

Max Online: 2537 @ 01/19/20 07:09 AM
Newest Members
Creeky, Alberto Chimelli, Cobailer, DannyGilfler, musiclover21

35564 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Pipeline 235
AudioTrack 233
Mark Hayes 228
MusicStudent 223
MarioD 205
bloc-head 173
Rustyspoon# 168
Jim Fogle 152
jpettit 148
Rob Helms 144
Today's Birthdays
JasonOne, Passion4Blue